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Little Britain - the state of England today

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Dinahmo Tue 13-Jul-21 21:36:42

I have picked upon England since I am not as aware of what is going on in the other countries of the Union with regard to the state of the nation.

I've been sitting in my home in France, with tempests outside, watching the Channel 4 News. It was so depressing.

90,000 families living in sub-standard temporary accommodation.

Racism

Water companies deliberately releasing sewage into rivers and sea, despite all the rules and regs and heavy fines.

Cuts to overseas aid - by one of the richest nations.

30,000 children in care moved last year away from their local area, schools, support networks etc, often without prior warning (not on Channel 4)

Cuts in the arts lessons in schools.

Football

We came to France, bought a plot of land and built a house. I guess we were lucky to do so. It was an adventure, something to stop us getting bogged down in our retirement. At the time we didn't intend to stay here but now I'm not so sure. The England that I loved has disappeared.

In the early fifties we moved to Dorset. Parents under 30 with 3 children. We got a council house, possibly because of my Father's job - I don't know. In those days we had one bath a week and didn't have individual towels. The loo was in the bathroom. in the early sixties we moved to a brand new house, with, joy o joy, a second separate loo. Today my house has 3 bedrooms and 3 bath/shower rooms. And at the same time there are tens of thousands of families living in sub standard housing. WHY?

The govt is picking on subjects like Voter ID. statues and BLM because they know that it will stir up a large proportion of the population. But they're not as important as other things that are happening, like the slow but sure privatisation of the NHS. How many of you have only been able to access your GP (if you have one, as we did in times gone by, who knew oneself) by video calls or Zoom or whatever?

The water companies are privately owned so they don't give a toss. Southern Water has been fined £90 million - so much but yet not enough to prevent them from continuing to release sewage into the sea. Channel had a map showing where there were releases along the south coast today. At least a dozen. it's lucky it's raining and there are heavy seas so people won't be swimming there any time soon.

The behaviour of football fans towards supporters of the opposition. Forcing their way into the stands reserved for the Danes and being abusive. Pulling a Danish mother's hair and calling her a whore and spitting at people.

I care about these things and yet I don't live in the UK at the moment. Why aren't you all caring about the wrongs? And, if you do, why aren't you doing something about it?

You can tell me that it's always been like this but I've been on this earth for 74 years and it's about times things changed.

mokryna Sun 18-Jul-21 07:14:58

joysutty

Mocryna.oh I will ask my SIL next time we speak. But know the hospital car parking she told me is for free. That's a big issue f or us hospital patients in the uk. WHich presume are run by private companies not the nhs.

Yes, the French system is run on using public and private hospitals and clinics but you are refunded, unless you go to one that isn’t under the umbrella of the government contrat.

RVK1CR Sun 18-Jul-21 07:09:49

@Whitewavemark2
@kadinsky
The fact is the UK is in terrible debt and does not have money to give away. The immigrants are quite safe in France and should stay there, we cannot afford any more here and don't want them. The country is full and the NHS is at breaking point. There are many ordinary, hard working people on minimum wage in the UK waiting for social housing, we just do not want any uninvited people. They are safe in France , it is our benefits that they are after, I wish they would stop trying to barge in when they are SAFE where they are, let France take of them, it is much bigger and has so much more space. I hope our Home Secretary succeeds in getting the boats towed back.

MissAdventure Sun 18-Jul-21 00:46:04

I've never found it a big issue.
It gets on my nerves, and it's a pain if someone needs constant appointments, but there are worse things.

joysutty Sun 18-Jul-21 00:33:43

Mocryna.oh I will ask my SIL next time we speak. But know the hospital car parking she told me is for free. That's a big issue f or us hospital patients in the uk. WHich presume are run by private companies not the nhs.

MissAdventure Sun 18-Jul-21 00:17:30

In 2017?

Elleee Sat 17-Jul-21 23:57:17

That would fit the timeline, of course
That was that place in time

Callistemon Sat 17-Jul-21 23:55:20

Prejudice in any form is an unpleasant trait.

Callistemon Sat 17-Jul-21 23:54:27

So - do you have proof that Ewen Fergusson himself did that, Ellee?

His membership would have been 35 years ago.

Elleee Sat 17-Jul-21 23:52:13

So to be clear, this is another member of the Bullingdon Club, you know, those fellas burning fifty quid notes up in front of homeless people
OK, huge sigh...

Callistemon Sat 17-Jul-21 23:33:19

Right, done some sleuthing and also:

A Cabinet Office spokesman said: "Mr Fergusson applied through open and fair competition, following the Governance Code for Public Appointments.

"^His application was carefully considered on its merits by the Advisory Assessment Panel, which interviewed him and found that he was appointable."^

Kali2 if you wish to follow my leads, you could start by finding out who is on the Advisory Assessment Panel which said that Mr Fergusson was appointable.

As I said, I have a busy few days ahead but it's a start.

mokryna Sat 17-Jul-21 22:56:08

Joystutty Our NHS is for Free. Know my sister in law over in the South of France has to pay.
I don’t understand this. I pay the doctor when I see them BUT it is reimbursed fully except for 2 euros, so if that is the price to see a doctor within a week face to face even through the pandemic so be it. Moreover, I never pay for any medicine within the French health guidelines. Other medicine I pay a percentage but the again is refunded onto my bank account. Maybe you SIL is not in the French system, she should make an appointment at the social security office near where she lives.

Callistemon Sat 17-Jul-21 22:51:42

Lord Jonathan Evans of Weardale (Chair)

The Rt Hon Dame Margaret Beckett DBE MP

Dame Shirley Pearce

Dr Jane Martin CBE

[Vacancy] - now filled

Monisha Shah

The Rt Hon Lord Andrew Stunell OBE

The Rt Hon Jeremy Wright QC MP

It's too late tonight to start any research and I have a busy few days ahead, but this is a start.

Callistemon Sat 17-Jul-21 22:47:20

Right, the first thing to do is find out more.

What you are saying, Kali2, is that Ewen Fergusson, age 55, has no standards and no ethics simply because, when he was a teenager at university, he belonged to a rather unruly dining club.

Is there other evidence that he has led an unethical life since then such to prevent him from taking up this unpaid post?
Perhaps we should know if so.

MissAdventure Sat 17-Jul-21 22:41:30

Sounds like a plan.
Rightio then
smile

Callistemon Sat 17-Jul-21 22:40:18

Because I care I will look up the other committe members.

If I don't like the look or sound of them I could post about it on GN.

MissAdventure Sat 17-Jul-21 22:34:59

What's the plan then?
What are those who care going to do about it?

Kali2 Sat 17-Jul-21 22:34:05

Oh that's OK then, pheeeeew.

MerylStreep Sat 17-Jul-21 22:28:13

I don’t know about him making me feel safe, but he is rather cute. ?

Callistemon Sat 17-Jul-21 22:15:30

I think everyone in Little Britain feels warm and fuzzy today.
It's the weather.

Chewbacca Sat 17-Jul-21 21:58:17

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Allsorts Sat 17-Jul-21 21:52:01

Refugees go through other countries to get here, we have problems but not as much as other countries, but I wouldn’t worry too much about us living here, I wouldn’t go anywhere else if you paid me. Those that find it not to their liking have obviously moved to France or Spain or where there are no problems at all, good luck to them all.

Callistemon Sat 17-Jul-21 21:50:42

why aren't you doing something about it? Kali2?

MissAdventure Sat 17-Jul-21 21:49:06

Bit goady there.

Kali2 Sat 17-Jul-21 21:47:46

Do you feel all warm and fuzzy about this appointment too? And safe, so safe.

Kali2 Sat 17-Jul-21 21:45:51

Don't worry- Johnson has now appointed a great Independent Sleaze guy to make sure all is above board!

Boris Johnson’s government is under fire after one of the prime minister’s university school friends – a former Bullingdon Club member – was handed a role on Whitehall’s sleaze watchdog.

Ewen Fergusson, a member of Oxford’s infamous dining club at the same time as the prime minister, has been named as one of two new members for the committee on standards in public life.

Sir Alistair Graham, former chair of the independent committee, claimed the appointment was “pathetic” – given the friendship between Mr Johnson and Mr Fergusson.

“It really is desperate if you have to be a university mate of Boris Johnson to qualify to sit on the committee that is supposed to examine sleaze,” Sir Alistair said.