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RNLI and Farage

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 29-Jul-21 09:44:45

I am finding it difficult to get my brain around the concept, that there are people in this country who would rather let a world wide respected maritime organisation see people drown than save them.

I just hope that Farage criticising them for doing their job ensures that they have the best year yet from donations.

GagaJo Fri 30-Jul-21 09:26:21

Farage is a political cockroach. Willing to feed on whatever rotten leftovers he can get to maintain his notoriety.

However, despite loathing the bloke, he has paradoxically done the RNLI a huge favour by inadvertantly encouraging thousands to make donations, to enable them to continue their valuable life saving of anyone in need on the seas.

The RNLI are rightfully blind when it comes to the nationality or ethnicity of those in need of their help and now Farage has helped them help even more people.

Peasblossom Fri 30-Jul-21 09:40:38

The RNLI does not accept any payment or donation from Government precisely because they do not want to be beholden to them and have to pay regard to any government directive or political prejudice.

The volunteers save lives at sea without judgement. And that includes any judgement of government whose policies may cause lives to be endangered.

For the first time they have asked for a one-off special payment to enable them to station lifeguards on our beaches, anticipating large numbers of people who simply don’t understand how the sea works.

But they wouldn’t accept it if it came with any kind of caveat as to who could be saved.

It doesn’t matter to the volunteers whether the person in danger is from Syria or the middle of England, whether they are in their multi-million pound yacht or the Asda inflatable, whether they’ve taken actions that they knew would put their lives at risk or whether they’ve just been unthinking, whether they’ve been duped by the unscrupulous or talked into something silly by their friends.

All that matters is that they have saved a life.

Farage shouldn’t have made them a political vehicle and neither should anyone else on this thread that really cares about them

Alegrias1 Fri 30-Jul-21 09:46:45

I think everyone, including Farage, understands that the RNLI will save anyone who needs it. I also think most of us understand that Farage was trying to use a well respected British institution to twist the situation in the Channel around to make people think they were being taken advantage of. Well most saw through that piece of political manoeuvring. So now its changed a bit to suggest they are picking a fight with poor Nigel and that they are steaming into French waters to pick up anybody that the French decide they want to get rid of.

MoorlandMooner Fri 30-Jul-21 09:47:51

love0c

Sad and indeed very worrying that there is this growing number of people who cry ' freedom for all'. Yet this freedom is on the proviso that you say and believe what they tell you! 'Freedom? unfortunately these people do not know the meaning of the word.

We are all free. Nobody here is saying we are not.

Nigel Farage is free to speak. We are free to agree or disagree and to believe him or not.

lemongrove Fri 30-Jul-21 09:48:44

I think if they accept money from the government for lifeguards on the beach, perhaps they would/should for the many calls for assistance to go across the Channel to rescue migrants ( if happening on a regular basis.)Unless the RNLI doesn’t need the extra money of course.I wondered if any remuneration had been forthcoming for them for helping, knowing how much it must cost for every time the lifeboats are called out.

Chestnut Fri 30-Jul-21 10:07:19

There was another point made in the video. Lifeboat volunteers have to go to work and also run their own businesses. On the south coast they are being called out so much that it is becoming impossible to work, and as a result may be forced to stop their RNLI work.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 30-Jul-21 10:08:14

How heartened they must be feeling

“RNLI
@RNLI
This week, the #RNLIheroes are all of you. For your magnificent support. For your generous donations. For your kind words. It means the world to our lifesavers. Thank you.”

Whitewavemark2 Fri 30-Jul-21 10:08:52

Chestnut

There was another point made in the video. Lifeboat volunteers have to go to work and also run their own businesses. On the south coast they are being called out so much that it is becoming impossible to work, and as a result may be forced to stop their RNLI work.

Rubbish!

Peasblossom Fri 30-Jul-21 10:15:31

Yes, I don’t know where you got that from Chestnut, but it simply isn’t true.

It just shows how easily exaggeration and misinformation spreads. And how people will use anything and anyone for their own political ends,

Kali2 Fri 30-Jul-21 10:22:10

Actually, I can see it could be a problem- as much as I am disgusted with Farage and his supporters.

Alegrias1 Fri 30-Jul-21 10:25:22

Kali2

Actually, I can see it could be a problem- as much as I am disgusted with Farage and his supporters.

And that's why he said it. So thst people think its a problem. It's not a problem, it's something he said he would be worried about for himself.

Not a surprise- Farage isn't generally seen as altruistic.

Lucca Fri 30-Jul-21 10:28:01

love0c

Sad and indeed very worrying that there is this growing number of people who cry ' freedom for all'. Yet this freedom is on the proviso that you say and believe what they tell you! 'Freedom? unfortunately these people do not know the meaning of the word.

Meaning ? Sorry if I’m being thick but specifically what do you mean ?

Froglady Fri 30-Jul-21 10:34:18

Though some people have let the RNLI know that they are stopping their donations because of them saving people! Words fail me.

crazygranny Fri 30-Jul-21 10:35:59

Farage would say anything to gain attention.

Chestnut Fri 30-Jul-21 10:40:22

Whitewavemark2

Chestnut

There was another point made in the video. Lifeboat volunteers have to go to work and also run their own businesses. On the south coast they are being called out so much that it is becoming impossible to work, and as a result may be forced to stop their RNLI work.

Rubbish!

How rude. For your information it has happened.

coastalgran Fri 30-Jul-21 10:41:24

These are probably the same people that want to eradicate parts of our history and tear down sculptures and rename streets and buildings. They are also the type of people who condemn the government without any real evidence to back up their silly claims. It will work against them and hopefully RNLI will have huge donations that will allow them to expand the excellent work that they do.

Chestnut Fri 30-Jul-21 10:43:01

Chestnut

Well, WWM2 I wonder if you can 'get you head around' the fact that your OP is complete nonsense. Who are these people you mention who would rather let people drown than save them? And who has criticised the RNLI for doing their job?

I see you have conveniently ignored my questions relating to your OP WWM2

vegansrock Fri 30-Jul-21 10:44:32

So should the taxpayer be funding the RNLI? I wouldn’t have a problem with this, but then as a public service they would cease to be voluntary , or should the coast guards have a fleet of life boats / paid crew to do this job? Surely there isn’t anything wrong with what the RNLI are currently doing. I think what Farage wants is for no one to do this job and people in these boats to disappear.

sundowngirl Fri 30-Jul-21 10:46:42

25Avalon

RNLI are actually going into French waters when it should be the French rescue services. They know our RNLI are humanitarian and they are taking advantage.

Having read Farage’s comments I don’t see much wrong with what he said. Certainly not vile as some would make out. Just shows you should always read for yourself.

25Avalon I totally agree with you. I do not think Nigel's comments were wrong and the RNLI should not be used as a taxi service for these illegal 'economic' migrants who are mostly young men

Kali2 Fri 30-Jul-21 10:47:10

Must admit I was too busy yesterday- but I have just donated.

Keeping donations up is the best message we can send to haters - and to the RNLI that do such an amazing job.

vegansrock Fri 30-Jul-21 10:47:24

chestnut plenty of people have criticised the RNLI for doing their job- plenty of hate on Twitter and even threats and vile abuse from people on shore. Farage said they were providing a “taxi service” , which has stirred up the hate.

varian Fri 30-Jul-21 10:53:35

Huge increase in donations to RNLI since Farage's hate filled attack

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/29/rnli-donations-soar-in-response-to-farages-migrant-criticism

Whitewavemark2 Fri 30-Jul-21 10:58:16

Yes donate - best message for the RNLI

GillT57 Fri 30-Jul-21 10:59:46

Sundowngirl just a reminder that Ms Patel's parents were what we would today describe as economic migrants. Farage is a malicious and silly old fool with nothing to do but stir up indignation in those stupid enough not to realise they are being played. I don't use the word stupid accidentally, I can't tell you how many posts I have read on FB from people proudly announcing they have stopped their DD to the RNLI, how can you be proud to announce you are happy for people to drown? Probably the same people who are not bothered that the cut in Foreign Aid will condemn hundreds of thousands of people to a premature death. Usually goes with the people don't really need foodbanks philosophy as well I find. All very predictable, but still sickening.

libra10 Fri 30-Jul-21 11:01:20

In the GB News programme, Nigel Farage also stated that he was proud to have helped the RNLI to raise money in the past.

He wasn't having a dig at the RNLI, he was annoyed that the French were doing so little at stopping these boats leaving the coast, and also about the traffickers who are paid £1000s for a place on a dinghy or whatever.

How biased this thread has become!

And no-one has questioned about what will happen to these people once reaching the UK shore.

How many houses will need to be built?
How much NHS help will be needed?
Which schools will their children attend?

We are a small over-populated country, our resources are bursting at the seams!