RNLI and Farage

25Avalon I don't think people traffickers are "using" the RNLI at all. The traffickers don't give a monkeys what happens to the refugees once they have pocketed the money and stuck them in the boats. Why would they care whether they drown?

It seems we have now reached a point where not only are ambulance crews are regularly attacked but lifeboat crews are being threatened. Sunny uplands indeed.

I listened to the clip which Chestnut posted earlier and I agree with everything Nigel Farage said.
How many of you who appear to be trying to outdo each other with your level of vitriol aimed at him actually bothered to listen to what he said?

He went to great lengths to repeatedly state how much respect he has for the RNLI, how he has been involved in fund raising for them and that he has personally donated to them.

He then quite correctly pointed out that picking up and dealing with the migrants trying to enter our country illegally is not the job of the RNLI but of Border Force, who as he stated should be towing the boats back to France.

This situation can’t be allowed to continue but people smuggling is an extremely lucrative business.

Lemongrove in that case I apologise. I am still really hacked off at being singled out for an attack earlier.

25Avalon

From the vile anti Brexit comments I am so glad I voted leave. I wouldn’t want to be associated with anyone making such remarks about those of us who voted to leave. Farage made some good points. The RNLI are being used or abused as a migrant taxi service, primarily by the traffickers, who put illegal migrants in danger.

Agree 25Avalon and there are posters who just look for any thread where they can express their hatred of Farage, Boris, Brexit etc. It is like Groundhog Day. In this instance Farage is not attacking or criticising the RNLI at all, in fact he is supporting them. You don't have to like someone to accept they are making a valid point.

It's just an enthma to me that anyone could object to an organisation who save 'human' lives
The RNLI have benefited hugely from Farage's remarks and for that I applaud him
Keep going RNLI ❤

For all those saying he is supporting the RNLI and we haven't listened to what he said.

You're being played, same as usual. It's all about Nigel, if you listen to it properly. Starts with how he's not really the bad guy, in fact he collected money for the RNLI! Selfless, generous old Nigel! And ends with him trying to say the RNLI are trying to pick a fight with him.

In between, lots of made up stuff that tries to make out that those nasty foreign types are picking on our brave mariners.

It's the worst kind of manipulation and propaganda, and those who are agreeing with him don't even know it. They never do.

In between, lots of made up stuff that tries to make out that those nasty foreign types are picking on our brave mariners.
I think 'those nasty foreign types' you refer to are the people traffickers. And yes they are very nasty indeed.

Avalon, I don't think they are illegally leaving France.

I don't know if you saw this:
Just felt the need to share it...

twitter.com/RNLI/status/1420319266746871834?s=20

NotSpaghetti

I don't know if you saw this:
Just felt the need to share it...

twitter.com/RNLI/status/1420319266746871834?s=20

Wonderful, humanitarian, generous.

Vile abuse and threats have been heaped on the RNLI for helping in the channel. Not just “it’s not your job we support you though” from St Nigel who has obvious joined in the stirring. Just saying it’s the governments’ job is really saying it won’t get done - maybe the government should fund a fleet of lifeboats around the coast, but they don’t, so is Farage saying the taxpayer should fund the RNLI? Thank goodness there has been a huge increase in donations.

Alegrias1

For all those saying he is supporting the RNLI and we haven't listened to what he said.

You're being played, same as usual. It's all about Nigel, if you listen to it properly. Starts with how he's not really the bad guy, in fact he collected money for the RNLI! Selfless, generous old Nigel! And ends with him trying to say the RNLI are trying to pick a fight with him.

In between, lots of made up stuff that tries to make out that those nasty foreign types are picking on our brave mariners.

It's the worst kind of manipulation and propaganda, and those who are agreeing with him don't even know it. They never do.

I couldn’t agree more.

Those supporting Farage should do so with a much more critical brain.

It is so dispiriting reading some of the comments on this thread, but then I read in my paper that over £200000 was donated yesterday to the RNLI by people who found Farage and his supporters beyond the pale.

My spirits are lifted by these humanitarians who so object to the mean and nasty message by Farage. In fact he has no evidence for much of what he claimed, and living on the south coast I have seen no evidence either.

Just keep donating- strongest message.

Once these folk arrive, I suspect they may think that the danger and sheer human effort they made to get here was not worth the candle when they begin to understand the conditions that they are being kept under.

The Home office has received a letter from the home affairs select committee raising alarm at the way these folk are being treated.

Patel will do nothing I’m sure.

Remembered this thread from last year. No-one turning a hair at the possibility of 1,000s of new immigrants to our overcrowded island...

www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1279823-Boris-pledges-to-take-3-MILLION-from-Hong-Kong

But sadly…

Clearly a lot of people on here who have 'heard' a completely different interview/report. I heard Farage praise the RNLI!

I’ll say it again. I watched the whole thing. I didn’t “hear” it from someone else.

love0c

Clearly a lot of people on here who have 'heard' a completely different interview/report. I heard Farage praise the RNLI!

You're being played. He's using the RNLI to cover his racist anti-immigration stance.

I refer you to Alegrias'* post yesterday 23.23

love0c

Clearly a lot of people on here who have 'heard' a completely different interview/report. I heard Farage praise the RNLI!

My post, 23:23 last night.

Cross post MaizieD!

Friends, Romans, Countrymen, lend me your ears.
I come to praise the RNLI, not to attack them.

Well, a bit of a change around from the original, but you'll recall that Mark Antony meant exactly the opposite of what he was saying. Clever chap, that Shakespeare.

Sad and indeed very worrying that there is this growing number of people who cry ' freedom for all'. Yet this freedom is on the proviso that you say and believe what they tell you! 'Freedom? unfortunately these people do not know the meaning of the word.

It seems that posters are conflating different points about this subject.
I think we are all on the same page ( including Farage) about the marvellous work that the RLNI does, lifeboats manned by volunteers going out in all weather conditions to rescue people.
Then there is the point of should they have to do this, when the RN and coastguard staff ( all paid posts) should be shouldering this, ditto the French Navy and Coastguards.
All the RNLI men have jobs, which they have to leave and run to the boat when called.
Does the government give any material help ( cash) to the RNLI for continually helping?
The last point is another that we can all agree on, that awful people gather sometimes in groups to jeer at the lifeboatmen and any asylum seekers when they come ashore.
There is a valid point in discussing this issue without getting personal to other posters.