RNLI and Farage

No surprise, coming from Farage. The man's an utter idiot and with all the human empathy of a brick.

Paperbackwriter

No surprise, coming from Farage. The man's an utter idiot and with all the human empathy of a brick.

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The RNLI are there to save lives. They have no political axe to grind. Do the criticisers expect them to stand by and watch the migrants drown?

I am absolutely appalled by the callousness of some posters. They are probably the same people who were telling all and sundry “All lives Matter” when the Black Lives Matter was in the news.
But obviously it doesn’t include those poor souls risking their lives in very unsafe boats.
Shame, shame on you

Who has been callous Frenchie??
No-one here has shown anything but respect and support for the RNLI. There may be idiots out there in the world who are throwing abuse at them but not on this thread. So who should be shamed and why?

frenchie

I am absolutely appalled by the callousness of some posters. They are probably the same people who were telling all and sundry “All lives Matter” when the Black Lives Matter was in the news.
But obviously it doesn’t include those poor souls risking their lives in very unsafe boats.
Shame, shame on you

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libra10

In the GB News programme, Nigel Farage also stated that he was proud to have helped the RNLI to raise money in the past.

He wasn't having a dig at the RNLI, he was annoyed that the French were doing so little at stopping these boats leaving the coast, and also about the traffickers who are paid £1000s for a place on a dinghy or whatever.

How biased this thread has become!

And no-one has questioned about what will happen to these people once reaching the UK shore.

How many houses will need to be built?
How much NHS help will be needed?
Which schools will their children attend?

We are a small over-populated country, our resources are bursting at the seams!

When they reach the shore all those posters in favour of them coming are going to-

Pay an extra 20% tax

Share their house

Not complain if they can’t get an NHS appointment because the service is oversubscribed

Agree to have umpteen houses built on the green belt around them because there is nowhere else.

And the rest. No complaints.

Chesnut all the ones defending Farage

Is it a choice. Because could we swap some of the people who are trolling the RNLI for the people they are rescuing, that would ease some of the problems you mention.

Galaxy

Is it a choice. Because could we swap some of the people who are trolling the RNLI for the people they are rescuing, that would ease some of the problems you mention.

Excellent idea.

On the one hand of course the RNLI do a wonderful job no one can say otherwise we have a direct debit set up and donate money each month ( we do own a boat) But I would like to know why don’t the French go out and take them back to safety when they can clearly be seen in dinghies which were never designed to go across the channel. Also why are volunteer lifeboat crews being used when U.K. border force should have more craft of their own to do the job. Who is calling out the lifeboats is it the border force or is it the people on the small craft who are calling for help, why do they leave a safe country to come to the UK why??? By the lifeboats going out to these craft if they are not in danger of sinking or distress yachtsman could be at risk because the lifeboats are busy elsewhere looking after the immigrants. Are the government abusing the kindness of volunteers on the lifeboats to assist border force on the cheap, the UK government apparently has given the French many millions of pounds to stop the migrants getting into their boats in the first place and yet hundreds of them are still making the crossing over one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world. Also how do we know that the migrants are all deserving cases and there are not terrorist among them who in time could carry out an outrage and kill many people in the UK. How do you know?.. The truth is we don’t know who they are.

You see how Farage has “allowed” xenophobia to raise its ugly head.

He will be pleased

Whatever next from that revolting odious but dangerous man- that Cancer Research only look to find curs for British people? I’d love love love him to go on Who Do You Think You Are and find multiple ethnic relaives\ancestors??

Germansheperdsmum
I live on the north Cornwall coast and not unusual for the brave men and women of the RNLI to frequently carry out animal rescue.
Correct if wrong but is not the RNLI motto
'*with courage anything is possible*

frenchie

Chesnut all the ones defending Farage

No-one is 'defending' Farage, just hearing the point he makes. Have you listened to the video? Or are you one of these 'I hate Farage therefore anything he says and anyone who agrees with it are heartless monsters?' Check it out, no-one (including him) have said anything against the RNLI or the saving of lives.

I always thought I would cut out my tongue rather than agree with Jeremy Clarkson but he wrote an excellent article recently. He said that the migrants had shown determination courage and often ingenuity to get here , so why on Earth why weren’t we taking advantage of these qualities and giving these people the training to help them stay here but not only support themselves but contribute to society. PS hope I don’t have to agree with him m again?

lemongrove

I think if they accept money from the government for lifeguards on the beach, perhaps they would/should for the many calls for assistance to go across the Channel to rescue migrants ( if happening on a regular basis.)Unless the RNLI doesn’t need the extra money of course.I wondered if any remuneration had been forthcoming for them for helping, knowing how much it must cost for every time the lifeboats are called out.

They don't go "across the channel" as far as I'm aware. I don't think they would be allowed to operate in French waters... I could be wrong.

Nanna58

I always thought I would cut out my tongue rather than agree with Jeremy Clarkson but he wrote an excellent article recently. He said that the migrants had shown determination courage and often ingenuity to get here , so why on Earth why weren’t we taking advantage of these qualities and giving these people the training to help them stay here but not only support themselves but contribute to society. PS hope I don’t have to agree with him m again?

Funnily enough Clarkson is improving and he's absolutely right.

Also how do we know that the migrants are all deserving cases and there are not terrorist among them who in time could carry out an outrage and kill many people in the UK. How do you know?.. The truth is we don’t know who they are.

You could ask exactly the same question of the 1,00s of people who arrive daily in the UK by 'legal' means.

There isn't exactly space in a crowded rubber dinghy for a terrorist's arsenal, is there?

If they're picked up by the border police or the RNLI they're not going to get a chance to contact any terrorist cells in the UK and they will be 'housed' under virtual prison conditions once they're here. And investigated...

I really can't see terrorists being particularly keen on this method of infiltrating the UK.

I think this is a ridiculous 'Let's not trust any foreigners' argument.

Nanna58

I always thought I would cut out my tongue rather than agree with Jeremy Clarkson but he wrote an excellent article recently. He said that the migrants had shown determination courage and often ingenuity to get here , so why on Earth why weren’t we taking advantage of these qualities and giving these people the training to help them stay here but not only support themselves but contribute to society. PS hope I don’t have to agree with him m again?

Heavens did he really ? Good on him then

This should cheer the Faragers up.

For myself I think it is one of the most inhumane intention this government has yet carried out, regarding the organisations like the RNLI.

“The UK Government has recently published its controversial Nationality and Borders Bill 2021, which has had its first reading in the House of Commons.

Clause 38 of the Bill seeks to amend the 1971 Immigration Act, increasing the maximum sentence for assisting unlawful immigration to the UK from 14 years to life imprisonment. It also seeks to remove the words “for gain”, which previously limited prosecutions to paid people smugglers.

Some immigration barristers have argued that this could potentially make the rescuing of migrants at sea by organisations like the RNLI a criminal offence, as lifeboat crews could be seen as ‘facilitating’ migrant arrivals in the UK.”

Me too! Not only is it a worthwhile cause, but if it p*** off Farage all the better! ?

How many houses will need to be built?
How much NHS help will be needed?
Which schools will their children attend?

We are a small over-populated country, our resources are bursting at the seams!

BINGO!

This is why I posted a link to an old thread earlier this morning. No-one was at all bothered at the possibility of thousands of Hong Kongers coming to the UK. No complaints about not enough space or infrastructure for them..

I wonder why...

If the govt funded the RNLI they would also be able to control some of the work if they think it's unnecessary.

It’s ironic some of the abuse on here from certain posters towards other posters or politicians they do not agree with is just as bad as that used by trolls they complain about.