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“Recollections may vary”. Harry and Meghan (again - I know!)

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MawBe Thu 19-Aug-21 07:36:38

This may be a pot shot too far, now they seem to be including the Queen in their self- righteous whingeing.
(Not that I am biased)
Apparently Duke and Duchess of Sussex believe the Queen failed to take “full ownership” of the race allegations made in their interview with Oprah Winfrey, according to the authors of the unauthorised biography Finding Freedom.
A “friend of the couple” (unnamed, of course) has apparently told Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand that the Queen’s lack of action had prevented the Duke and Duchess from moving on from the claims.
The source also suggested that the Queen’s assertion that “recollections may vary” had not gone down well.
(It did however rank IMHO as one of HM’s all-time greatest bons mots )
The Queen has until now been one of the only senior members of the Royal family to escape the Sussexes’ criticism, but this new epilogue to Finding Freedom, published in People magazine in the US, suggests that the Duke and Duchess feel frustrated that the Duke’s grandmother did not follow through with her promise to address their concerns.
It says: “The Queen’s ‘recollections may vary’ comment ‘did not go unnoticed’ by the couple, who a close source said were ‘not surprised’ that full ownership was not taken
Just one question, if this book is “unauthorised”, does it or does it not reflect their views? Or is it an example of letting somebody else put words in their mouths so that they can deny them afterwards if necessary? All these “unnamed friends,” and “close sources” - aye, right.

Peasblossom Sat 02-Oct-21 22:46:39

Grany, you were racist. You equated the term gorilla with being black.

You don’t have any grounds to lecture other people on racism until you address your own imbedded racism and denial.

If you can, put aside your antipathy to the Royal Family and take an honest look at your own failings.

A query about Archie was no worse than your own racist assumption about that somebody called a gorilla must be black.

That was the racist connection made by you.

Anniebach Sat 02-Oct-21 22:55:27

Grany use to call Prince Philip - Phil the Greek

Lucca Sun 03-Oct-21 05:57:04

Anniebach

Yes Lucca

Which is ?

Grany Sun 03-Oct-21 07:45:58

Peasblossom

Grany, you were racist. You equated the term gorilla with being black.

You don’t have any grounds to lecture other people on racism until you address your own imbedded racism and denial.

If you can, put aside your antipathy to the Royal Family and take an honest look at your own failings.

A query about Archie was no worse than your own racist assumption about that somebody called a gorilla must be black.

That was the racist connection made by you.

The Royals are have been racist queen got layers to exempt the palace from anti racism laws ok that still stand today. Don't accuse me of racism I just pointed out that what the queen said laughingly about a person whatever colour, (who knew what colour he was) was rude? Queen banned this film.
Now I want you to stop calling me racist thank you.

Video
Racism and the Royals

m.youtube.com/watch?v=7rs5_qYGR1U

Josianne Sun 03-Oct-21 11:10:56

Alegrias1

Who's Megan?

Oh, Meghan

I wonder why it is only on this thread we are obsessed with spelling royal names correctly, Megan or Meghan, Siena or Sienna?
On the Stricly thread there are a variety of name spellings like Judi or Judy, Sara or Sarah and no one hardly notices or cares?

Alegrias1 Sun 03-Oct-21 11:14:34

Because on this thread people either do it on purpose to denigrate and insult the person they are talking about, because they believe they know better how a person should be spelling their own name.

Or they make posts specifically praising one form of spelling over the other, even though they've got it wrong smile

Josianne Sun 03-Oct-21 11:18:50

Wrong, as far as I am concerned, as I have a friend called Megan and that is what comes on my phone choice after typing Me .......
I'm afraid I never preview or re read (as is sometimes very evident).
And on the Strictly thread the Judi/Judy insults are taken in good (ish) humour as intended?

Alegrias1 Sun 03-Oct-21 11:24:37

But the woman's name is Meghan, and choosing to repeatedly and consistently call her by a completely different spelling of her name just shows the contempt people feel for her.

Its childish, just like writing "wrong" and thinking its an unassailable argument.

I have a real name that people often spell incorrectly. I generally live with it because its not a big deal. But if people know what my name is, and decide to use a completely different spelling because they think they're entitled, they're going to get told.

Josianne Sun 03-Oct-21 11:29:08

Apologies Alegrias. My use of the word "wrong" was to mirror the end of your sentence. Sorry for not quoting you, even though they've got it wrong.

Alegrias1 Sun 03-Oct-21 11:30:07

Understood Josianne.

Josianne Sun 03-Oct-21 11:38:56

Maybe we accept mispellings of celebs' names because most of them play roles other than themselves and it all gets a bit confused. When it comes to royals we expect them to actually BE themselves more. So Kate or Catherine can only be Katherine, whereas Meghan could be Megan or even Rachel/Rachael because she is now a celeb? If you get my waffle.

Alegrias1 Sun 03-Oct-21 11:40:00

Well its possible Josianne but I don't think so, not in this case.

Lucca Sun 03-Oct-21 12:33:40

Josianne

Wrong, as far as I am concerned, as I have a friend called Megan and that is what comes on my phone choice after typing Me .......
I'm afraid I never preview or re read (as is sometimes very evident).
And on the Strictly thread the Judi/Judy insults are taken in good (ish) humour as intended?

Anniebach has said she writes Megan rather than Meghan for a reason, so it is not accidental. I have asked what the reason is….

Alegrias1 Sun 03-Oct-21 12:42:28

Its one of the mysteries of the ages.....

Josianne Sun 03-Oct-21 12:51:22

Oh, ok.

jaylucy Sun 03-Oct-21 12:55:51

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Alegrias1 Sun 03-Oct-21 13:01:10

Oh, I'm sorry, was our conversation keeping you awake?

SueDonim Sun 03-Oct-21 14:05:23

Because on this thread people either do it on purpose to denigrate and insult the person they are talking about, because they believe they know better how a person should be spelling their own name.

My DD’s friend is called Meghan. Can Gransnetters please advise as to whether I should inform her that she’s been spelling her own name wrong for 25 years. Also should I from now on write ‘Megan’ in birthday cards to her so she gets the message? I wouldn’t want to be thought ill-mannered, rude or spiteful, though!

Anniebach Sun 03-Oct-21 14:30:42

Alegrias1 has posted an opinion, I am either childish or spiteful.. take your pick .

Lucca Sun 03-Oct-21 14:39:12

But still not answering the question ….you said you had a reason ?

SueDonim Sun 03-Oct-21 14:46:04

That depends on your reason, Anniebach. If there’s a valid reason, it will be neither of those things. On the other hand, it could just be plain rude.

Alegrias1 Sun 03-Oct-21 14:50:09

Jings, I have no life.

I'm going to have some cake.

Alegrias1 Sun 03-Oct-21 14:52:12

Just before I do - there's a Scots word - contermaschious.

maddyone Sun 03-Oct-21 15:11:35

I haven’t a clue what contermaschious means, but I do know what cake is. The queen is said to eat afternoon tea, I think I’ll join her. It’ll have to be a biscuit or a scone though since I don’t have any cake. Better get baking next week I think.

SueDonim Sun 03-Oct-21 15:17:31

I had no idea the Duchess of Sussex was Welsh! You learn something new every day. grin