Reintroducing Imperial measures…..

I think most older people use a mixture and aren’t fussed either way.
Even younger people say ‘miles’ and ‘acres’.

Exactly lemongrove.

Unfortunately the rhetoric plays into the hands of "Little Englanders"

I don't think kilometres are relevant when you have mph, speed limits and road signs in miles.
Interestingly here in France I can still ask for une livre (a pound) of potatoes and get 500g more or less. Livres (pounds in money and weight), pieds and pouces (feet and inches) went out about 250 years ago. Land is obviously measured in hectares, but old people still talk about "mes acres".
Fifty years after decimalisation is nothing really.
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They won’t bring imperial back. Some children have enough trouble working out how many centimetres in 5 kilometres. Imagine going back to working out
5 x 63,360 to find out how many inches in 5 miles. ( I never understood who would need to know that anyway.)

It is all about being "British" again another stupid money wasting idea from the blonde haired nutter running this country.

Since it is a plan (not a policy) and provides another option rather than forcing compliance, I cannot get too worked up one way or another. I will still be ordering a pint, measuring in inches while buying food in grams and, hopefully, still running (jogging) 10K charity races.

For me, it is a bit sad that it has given the usual suspects the opportunity to drag out those tired old stereotypes of the Leaver again. For the record, in the real world, many Leavers and Remainers have many values in common and exist happily with one another. Thankfully, I have almost as many friends and family who are Remainers as Leavers so it's quite difficult to have a stereotype of a Remainer.

Since it is a plan (not a policy) and provides another option rather than forcing compliance, I cannot get too worked up one way or another. I will still be ordering a pint, measuring in inches while buying food in grams and, hopefully, still running (jogging) 10K charity races.

Well presumably you were doing that already?

So why are they pretending that this is such a big thing, and what is the point, exactly?

For the record, I don't co-exist happily with any Leavers. I only know one and she's changed her mind.

I imagine they are doing it because they said they would. Like so many things politicians do, I don't see the point of it either.

We all live in our own worlds but sensibly discussing things with people who do not share my view helps me understand the other side of the argument and avoid making stereotypes of any large group of people, least of all half the population.

Alegrias1

^Since it is a plan (not a policy) and provides another option rather than forcing compliance, I cannot get too worked up one way or another. I will still be ordering a pint, measuring in inches while buying food in grams and, hopefully, still running (jogging) 10K charity races.^

Well presumably you were doing that already?

So why are they pretending that this is such a big thing, and what is the point, exactly?

For the record, I don't co-exist happily with any Leavers. I only know one and she's changed her mind.

Me too. … leavers that is. Everyone I know voted remain except for two friends who now bitterly regret it. Oh and a very elderly mum who voted leave because somebody on tv said so and has no idea why. ?‍♀️

I probably happily coexist with some Leavers as I never discuss politics. It’s amazing how much blame was cast on older people for the referendum result, but none of them were on GN.

I know, and manage to remain, very happy with friends and family who vote differently to me.

I also believe that many Brexit voters are a bit like the shy Tories. They are well aware of the comments they're likely to get!

Excellent article in the Guardian touching on this subject. I believe it's dangerous to keep ridiculing those who vote Conservative or Brexit. What does it achieve?

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/12/polls-shy-tories-left-conservatives

Also to all the people who regret their vote ... what a shame. But there's nothing to be done.

Indeed. Heartily agree. Need to look forward not back. What’s done is done. Am a big fan of creating a good future. ….. no idea how though except don’t vote Tory ?‍♀️?

We are where we are.
Let's look forward.
The future is bright, it's in our hands
The people have spoken.

Etc, etc.

Nope, not convinced.

I have many friends who vote differently to me. Tory, Labour, Lib Dem, Green. Not one of them (except the one who's changed her mind) deluded enough to think that leaving the EU was a good idea.

I know people who voted leave but they never were people I would count as 'friends'. All my friends voted remain. Apart from one who only voted leave 'for a laugh' (his words). He never thought leave would win and regrets it now.

I have yet to see any evidence that there were any benefits and there are considerable downsides, this stupid proposal being one among many.

Mollygo

I probably happily coexist with some Leavers as I never discuss politics. It’s amazing how much blame was cast on older people for the referendum result, but none of them were on GN.

Are you joking?

Loads of them were (and probably still are) members of GN.

62Granny

It is all about being "British" again another stupid money wasting idea from the blonde haired nutter running this country.

The UK decided to adopt metric systems in 1965. It joined the Common Market in 1973. Does that mean that the country decided against being British in 1965?

growstuff

Mollygo

I probably happily coexist with some Leavers as I never discuss politics. It’s amazing how much blame was cast on older people for the referendum result, but none of them were on GN.

Are you joking?

Loads of them were (and probably still are) members of GN.

I detected a certain amount of irony in Mollygo's statement...

Just before the referendum Gnet ran a poll for members on Leave or Remain. Leave won very comfortably.

Perusal of my 1959 GCE O Level Maths. papers reveals only one reference to metric measurement: instructions for a trigonometry-related graph in Additional Mathematics II allowed the scales to be in either inches or centimetres (but not a mix of the two!).

Not surprisingly, therefore, I think mostly in Imperial, but switch happily between the two if I have to. What is complicated is converting metric fuel consumption figures to mpg. And what is g (gravity: 32ft/sec squared) in metric?

Trumpeting the reappearance of the crown stamp on the pint pot is just silly, but then we have a very silly PM.

Zoejory

I read about this. Is it not just allowing shops to use Imperial measurements if they want? Not sure.

I have to admit to still asking for a quarter of whatever at the butchers. Or a half. Pint of milk etc etc .

And why did we never embrace metric when it came to weighing babies?

When my children were born their weight was recorded in metric and they are in their 30s and 40s. Don't all hospitals do that?

Don't all hospitals do that?
Clearly they didn't all do it. My two were told me in imperial. 1979 & 1981. S. Yorks.

MaizieD

^Don't all hospitals do that?^
Clearly they didn't all do it. My two were told me in imperial. 1979 & 1981. S. Yorks.

With mine it was recorded in metric but the midwife also said what the equivalent was. Don't know if they'd do it now as women of childbearing age must have all grown up with the metric system.

Strange how all royal babies born over the past 10 years have had their weights announced in lbs and ounces.

I voted Leave twice, once in 1975 and again in 2016. I agree that some people voted for irrelevant reasons but on both sides. I stayed with my 1975 decision because I remained sceptical that a future United States of Europe will work well, economically and politically, and because I thought it wrong to commit future generations to a Union from which it would be impossible to break free. It comes down to sovereignty which some think a 'nebulous concept' but I regard as something people take for granted until it is gone when it can become the most compelling issue. I understand that people disagree but I regret that this fundamental issue was not central to the argument in 2016 and many Remainers voted Remain without giving it a second thought. The derision heaped on people like myself by some Remainers, supposedly tolerant, outward-looking, intelligent people, is ironic, divisive and very sad. None of us know whether a United States of Europe will work well or not. People used to point to the United States of America as a reference point but there have been massive inequalities in growth of individual US states for decades which ultimately was reflected in their very controversial political choice in 2016.

I have thought about this issue for 50 years and been open to persuasion; but I have never been convinced. Sadly, the Remain campaign not try to convince us about the merits of being a fully-fledged USE but relied mainly on Project Fear (which I did not ignore) and divisive stereotyping of Remainers as open and tolerant and Leavers as old, stupid, gullible and racist.

I will leave it there and leave you to decide on the basis of what I have written whether I deserve to be stereotyped in this insidious and inaccurate manner.

while every other child in the EU would learn two foreign languages I beg to differ there ElderlyPerson as here in Malaga I know personally of 3 Spanish families who want their children to learn to speak English (universal, so handy!) and they have to pay €60 a month for private lessons.

I will leave it there and leave you to decide on the basis of what I have written whether I deserve to be stereotyped in this insidious and inaccurate manner.

Who is stereotyping you on this thread?