Uncouth Angela Rayner doing Labour no favours

Callistemon

growstuff

Anniebach

I can’t think of any party leader or members of the cabinet or
shadow cabinet with or had a strong accent.

Kinnock?

Kinnock's accent wasn't strong.

William Hague has an accent.

I guess it's a matter of perception. To me, Kinnock's accent was strong - maybe because I'm not surrounded by Welsh accents.

Oh, I just looked up the meaning of chippy.

Not very nice, is it?

It hasn't gone unnoticed that posters have started calling others 'chippy' . As I said on the first page, some of us come across this in real life. People like us plebs to know our place, it's a shame we are revolting.

So really no need for the chippy comment.
Some posters just like to feel superior Witzend

It really is not very couth.

So really no need for the chippy comment.

Me and AR, common and chippy, we are.

And I seriously didn't know couth was a word.

Adrian Chiles (Brumagum accent) enjoys people in power being more frank than they should as they assume he's an idiot... He's had interesting interviews he'd never have if he'd acted Public School. Angela is a bit blunt but I admire her - you need a VERY thick skin to be female in public life - and we do need as many women as possible to speak up.

Re Strong accents Mps. ... which I googled
A Welsh MP has complained of Tories making "disparaging remarks" about his accent in the House of Commons.

Jonathan Edwards, in raising the issue with Speaker John Bercow, said he became aware of the "mockery" during the second reading debate of the Finance Bill on Monday.

The Plaid Cymru MP said the comments of the unnamed Tories served only to "reinforce the privilege and exclusive perception of Westminster".

Mr Bercow in his response condemned the comments as "bullying" but also admitted he himself had on occasion engaged in "extraordinarily ineffective mimicry" of certain MPs and apologised for his behaviour.

Alegrias1

Well I never knew couth was a word.

It's a proper education, this Gransnet. Ever so pleased I am, to be allowed to take part. Makes you proper grateful, so it does. ( reverses out, tugging forelock respectfully )

Alegrias, I put ‘couth’ in inverted commas for that very reason, and because AR had been described in the post title as uncouth. I should have thought that was obvious.

So really no need for the chippy comment.

It’s all tax payers money, whichever MP does this kind of thing.

Oh, those air pods she bought for a member of staff will just tip the whole country over into poverty, I should think.

I wonder if she has a duck house.

Agree lemon

Like most politicians, Angela Rayner enjoys spending taxpayers' money.

She claimed for 2 sets of Apple AirPods costing £250 each on Commons expenses.

Although after all the criticism, she did pay some cash back.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/14203562/angela-rayner-claimed-second-pair-of-apple-airpods/

Wilson could be a Yorkshireman when it suited him ( like the pipe and pint in hand) but had any rough edges knocked off him at Oxford I presume.

Alegrias1

Well I never knew couth was a word.

Have you never heard the term "a couth youth"
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Anniebach

I can’t think of any party leader or members of the cabinet or
shadow cabinet with or had a strong accent.

Harold Wilson?

Parsley3

Curlywhirly

Is it just a Britsh thing to stereotype people with certain accents ? I wonder if France, Italy, Germany, the US have the same problem?

That’s a good question. Is accent snobbery confined to us Brits?

Yes they do and it's not just here.

If we learn a foreign language we are often unaware of the accent we may pick up from the teacher, too.

growstuff

Anniebach

I can’t think of any party leader or members of the cabinet or
shadow cabinet with or had a strong accent.

Kinnock?

Kinnock's accent wasn't strong.

William Hague has an accent.

Curlywhirly

Is it just a Britsh thing to stereotype people with certain accents ? I wonder if France, Italy, Germany, the US have the same problem?

That’s a good question. Is accent snobbery confined to us Brits?

lemon think Richard Burton ?

Ah yes Zoe ‘the beast of Bolsover’?

I could listen to Welsh accents all day long Anniebach?

I don’t think there is a right accent,but some regional accents irritate some people.

Got it, lemongrove! Dennis Skinner! I liked him. And he's still alive. Thank you Google.

I think of all accents as country first then regional if my ear can tell the difference. I am aware of Scottish regional accents as I live here. I am now aware of the regional variety of English, Welsh and Irish accents from listening to television programmes and newsreaders. To my ears both Johnson and Starmer have accents. Everyone does and if a person can only be credible if they have the right accent then surely one should aspire to speak like the Queen to get on in life.

Yes growtuff and Gordon Brown , neither won an election when party leader.