Uncouth Angela Rayner doing Labour no favours

eazybee

What a pity she didn't make a lifestyle choice to get some education.
Her lack of it is very clear.

Angela Rayner's mother was unable to read or write. She's a done incredibly well for someone who had none of the advantages many of us take for granted.

A lack of education is not a clear as a lack of humanity. kindness or an open mind.

Her life choices were questioned.

Er because Angela Rayners decisions about having a child at 16 were brought up

trisher who has said on here, that working class people are unsuitable to govern?

trisher

I had to look up the first working class MP from the NE. Thomas Burt was elected to parliament in 1874. He came through the Miners Union and had worked down the mine sincehe was 12. Extraordinary that working class people are still regarded as unsuitable to govern!!!!

Couldn’t agree more

What do Johnson’s children have to do with the thread subject, Angela Rayner?
Are they being used ( in GN parlance) as dead cats or look! There’s a squirrel?
It’s no use either, getting hot under the collar with other posters about Rayner’s speech, you either think it’s great or you really don’t.

I had to look up the first working class MP from the NE. Thomas Burt was elected to parliament in 1874. He came through the Miners Union and had worked down the mine sincehe was 12. Extraordinary that working class people are still regarded as unsuitable to govern!!!!

JaneJudge

I think a well educated man in their 40s (now 50s) with no learning difficulties or addiction issues being unaware of contraception is much much worse than a girl of 15 not being as knowledgeable.

Touché JanetJudge couldn't agree more!

I think a well educated man in their 40s (now 50s) with no learning difficulties or addiction issues being unaware of contraception is much much worse than a girl of 15 not being as knowledgeable.

eazybee

What a pity she didn't make a lifestyle choice to get some education.
Her lack of it is very clear.

What an appalling comment.

And with all his privilege, too!
So much for his education!

A bit harsh to talk about lifestyle choices - she was only 16 when she had her son.

Bozzer was caught unawares by Savannah Guthrie in the US when she got him to admit that he had 6 children - an admission that has so far eluded the British press.

Now expecting his 7th child.

That's a lifestyle choice.

Blossoming

^Uncouth means lacking refinement, grace, manners, sophistication, culture.^

Oh dear, I appear to be uncouth.

On the other hand I am not lacking in intellect, education, empathy, social conscience, generosity.

Excellent post Blossoming

What a pity she didn't make a lifestyle choice to get some education.
Her lack of it is very clear.

Lifestyle choices. Bugger me. That's my northern attitude coming out. At least she brought up her children, rather than the lifestyle choices made by Johnson which ensured that didnt happen.

And there's a huge difference in the accents in the different boroughs there is and you’re right growstuff. Stockport, like Sale, Altrincham, Urmston (ahem!), Bowdon are south of the borough with less harsh accents, whereas Oldham, Rochdale and others are more ‘northern’.

As you say, it doesn’t matter a jot. But her chippy style is grating.

If anything she does a great disservice to the Labour Party. Left wing envy and class wars do not win votes. A massive embarrassment at every level. If Sir Keir had the balls he would have sacked her but he did not and will pay for it at the ballot box. In my opinion.

Either, not wither!

Actually much older than wither of them Grandma70s

Blossoming

Alegrias1

Jesus Mary and Joseph and the wee donkey.

First person to spot the use of the phrase "undeserving poor" wins a coconut.

I think it was Goebbels, in German though. I’ll need to check my reference books.

I thought it was George Bernard Shaw.

Angel Rayner..education

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Rayner

Urmstongran

She sounds like a not too bright child and takes politics back 20 years to Brown’s obsession with left and right. No longer relevant in the modern world where a standard of living is more nuanced.

She’s spunky though and I quite like her passion.

There are many not too bright ex-children around - gone are the days when accents covered up lack of intelligence.

Urmstongran

Greater Manchester is made up of ten boroughs: Bolton, Bury, Oldham, Rochdale, Stockport, Tameside, Trafford, Wigan and the cities of Manchester and Salford.

Just saying.
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And there's a huge difference in the accents in the different boroughs. I think Rayner sounds less "northern" than she used to.

My daughter now lives in Stockport, having lived in Greater Manchester for the last nine years and she can tell the difference. I must admit that I can't, but I can tell the difference between various Merseyside accents.

Does it really matter? Would it have been different if Miliband, Benn or Cooper had said what she did?

Blossoming

Alegrias1

Jesus Mary and Joseph and the wee donkey.

First person to spot the use of the phrase "undeserving poor" wins a coconut.

I think it was Goebbels, in German though. I’ll need to check my reference books.

The irony that my expletive could probably be classed as uncouth has not escaped me....

No matter her education, background, lack of polish, at least you know she is speaking from the heart.

Compare that to Johnson's speech - since when was he interested in the environment? You just know that he is playing to the current gallery - I can't imagine he would make such a speech if Trump were still president. A total pseud.

Definitely not uncouth, everything she said was true and needed to be said a lot of people will struggle this winter and Tories don't give a fig.