Petrol queues reported now on BBC news

People are not in "panic mode", even though that makes you feel good to say so. They are in survival mode. We all have it; it is the sanest way to act for the person and the species to survive.

What, by following tankers full of mortar and queuing outside abandoned petrol stations? We're not living in a Mad Max movie. Although sometimes I wonder.

That’s so funny.....twenty cars tailing a tanker carrying mortar,
Then complaining to the driver that he ‘should have told them he wasn’t a petrol tanker’.?

I've spent a lot of time on trains, lemon, from the early 1950s until the present.

All that stuff you've spouted about how poor they were before privatisation is straight out of the Mrs Thatcher Book of Soundbites for tory voters.

I find there is virtually no discernible difference between pre and post privatisation services. It is just far more complex to plan and pay for journeys, the trumpeted improvements to rolling stock only happened on major routes and the country lost vast sums of money through franchisers defaulting on their obligations by resigning from their franchises just before they were due to pay any money to the government.

Whether its funny or not, its ridiculous.

There are people trying to get fuel for perfectly reasonable reasons and then others who drive around for hours trying to find petrol. Well maybe if they hadn't driven around for hours they wouldn't need it.

The government are at the core of this issue, the media need to take responsibility for whipping up panic all over the country and people behaving like idiots are making it worse. If posters think we shouldn't be mentioning panic buying then they need to take a look at what's actually happening.

The Mrs Thatcher book of soundbites? ?Is there one?
Is there also a Mr Corbyn book of soundbites ....and are you quoting from it MaizieD ?
There were definite improvements after privatisation for quite a long time, and then gradually things began to disintegrate.
I too have been using trains since the 1950’s so we must be much the same age.

Alegrias1

^People are not in "panic mode", even though that makes you feel good to say so. They are in survival mode. We all have it; it is the sanest way to act for the person and the species to survive.^

What, by following tankers full of mortar and queuing outside abandoned petrol stations? We're not living in a Mad Max movie. Although sometimes I wonder.

Well, yes. Just because you are in survival mode does not mean everyone will be good at it. Let's face it, doing the right thing in a crisis is always a bit of a lucky dip as some will and some won't survive. However, their actions will still be an intention for survival.

Isn't that where good leadership should come in?

Alegrias1

^People are not in "panic mode", even though that makes you feel good to say so. They are in survival mode. We all have it; it is the sanest way to act for the person and the species to survive.^

What, by following tankers full of mortar and queuing outside abandoned petrol stations? We're not living in a Mad Max movie. Although sometimes I wonder.

By the way, that was taken out of context Alegrais. If you had bothered to read the rest of the post you would have seen it was about the government. But then, you do like to just "spit" occasionally, don't you?

Yeah, sometimes I just panic.

Quite a bit to panic about at the moment though.

That's a sad smile but we don't have one.

Here in S Hants it’s not easing, both local garages have had deliveries cancelled. One was due overnight, one today. MrJ will need diesel to get to work on Monday; I’m ok for now, but as a voluntary driver, I’ll need petrol later in the week. So not panicking, but inconvenienced.

People are not in "panic mode", even though that makes you feel good to say so. They are in survival mode. We all have it; it is the sanest way to act for the person and the species to survive.
So let's just abandon all social conscience and act in survival mode at all times then? Make sure me and mine are OK and blow the rest of you. Topping up your fuel tank when you still have over half or three-quarters of a tank is adding to the queues.

MerylStreep

GranyGravy
Enjoy ? My daughter had her wedding there.
They seem to have retained all their foreign service staff. ?

Lovely food, lovely staff and as you say many are from EU.

I understand that the government are writing to anyone with a HGV licence asking them to consider becoming a lorry driver. Is this true?

MayBee70

I understand that the government are writing to anyone with a HGV licence asking them to consider becoming a lorry driver. Is this true?

Apparently it is true. I posted somewhere or other the letter which people have received.

I think every German living in the UK have been written to inviting them to be HGV drivers as their licences in the 1990s allowed them to drive trucks. One man wrote to the Independent saying he thanked the government for the offer but he'd keep his job in an investment bak.

bank - sorry

Not quite double deckers but we traveled on these as children.

www.google.co.uk/search?sxsrf=AOaemvJUjsubvVGKRTuSporN09fwSN9yrw:1633171032578&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=double+decker+trains+%2B+south+east+london+1950s&hl=en-gb&client=safari&fir=EASAegkCcELoPM%252CdEDgWFem4T0jgM%252C_%253BSv8YqMimk60IXM%252CdEDgWFem4T0jgM%252C_%253BdNU4__154ydTdM%252C4NgkuEKVoxok7M%252C_%253B_RER1OZJhdqOVM%252Cxk7MXCMtJecN2M%252C_%253BDlg7r7QFtVk1qM%252C1Dum2Z3f5FYKaM%252C_%253B76UXdws5QKayTM%252C1Dum2Z3f5FYKaM%252C_%253Bz70K9xWnAenQBM%252Cxk7MXCMtJecN2M%252C_%253BBzTX6b87uajXTM%252CMlm_gZiswdbVoM%252C_%253BM0xtp-uwT0n7EM%252C0zDEFx0k_j31PM%252C_%253BLl1I-BsHIAFcoM%252C1Dum2Z3f5FYKaM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQMZQ7PKs_8hm5G8TGEWOzpIqvtzw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjU8oOaxKvzAhXKX8AKHU-qBKQQjJkEegQIDBAC&biw=1121&bih=768&dpr=2

They look very similar to ones we've traveled on in Ontario. When my son told me they had double decker trains I expected to see something as high as a double decker bus

Petrol shortage still appears to be a problem in South East. DD waited an hour last night for petrol but at least she found a forecourt open. However around here 180 miles north the petrol stations are back to normal. Not sure why the problem is still affecting the SE.

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“BREAKING: Due to the fuel shortage, Chris Rea has just started walking home for Christmas.”

Whitewavemark2

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“BREAKING: Due to the fuel shortage, Chris Rea has just started walking home for Christmas.”

Love it {grin}

There has been no diesel here for days. I can't do my job tomorrow which includes taking someone extremely vulnerable to an education placement if I can't get any this afternoon. It is making me feel anxious. I don't know whether to go out in the morning to try and find some or just stay at home. The whole situation is ridiculous. I did exactly what the government told me to do and look where it has got me!

Sorry that was a brain dump. I've lost my sense of humour as well, which is unheard of...

Got petrol at Asda today. Out of 8 pumps, only 3 cars there (including me).