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Petrol queues reported now on BBC news

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ayse Fri 24-Sept-21 12:10:21

Just watching the news showing people queuing for petrol. Apparently ‘the supply chain is under intense pressure”. BP is prioritising motorways and major routes. Deliveries are unpredictable and the army may be involved.

More talk about changing visa regs temporarily.

Visgir1 Fri 24-Sept-21 21:00:46

No ques next week though!

Forsythia Fri 24-Sept-21 20:39:55

The media definitely stoke the flames which encourages panic buying. No doubt about that.

Gwyneth Fri 24-Sept-21 20:30:45

Panic buying is making the problem much worse and the media have encouraged it as they are with supposed shortages at Christmas.

Forsythia Fri 24-Sept-21 20:21:59

No petrol or diesel pumps open at our local Tesco Express. However, not far away at Esso no problems apparently. This is in South West London.

Callistemon Fri 24-Sept-21 20:17:05

Perhaps the UK is not alone in its intellectual snobbery, MayBeMore?

Callistemon Fri 24-Sept-21 20:15:23

1 We need more thousands HGV drivers.

2 So many students have been accepted at universities this year that many thousands are left without accommodation.

hmm is it just me who thinks that there is some intellectual snobbery about careers in this country?

Teacheranne Fri 24-Sept-21 20:11:18

I am driving a new car, only done 325 miles so far and I don’t really know the fuel consumption I will get for my journeys so I filled up yesterday morning ( before I was aware of any possible shortages) when it was 1/4 full. I shall try to do the same for a while until I get a feel for petrol usage. I do have a computer which tells me when to fill up but I’m not sure I trust it yet!

I cannot walk to my local shops or walk to a bus stop due to my arthritis and do rely on my car but I will keep an eye on things as I guess I could cut down on some social outings - very reluctantly!

growstuff Fri 24-Sept-21 19:30:29

MayBeMaw Did you forget to include what the UK is doing to try and recruit more drivers?

Alegrias1 Fri 24-Sept-21 19:28:17

MayBeMaw

Whitewavemark2

GrannyGravy13

Ashcombe

Copied from a post on Facebook:-

"After seeing the news last night about fuel shortages, I popped in to Tesco and I spoke to a very nice tanker driver who was rather informative and told me that the boats carrying fuel are arriving daily at Plymouth, the two depots in Plymouth are extremely well stocked and there is no shortage of drivers. His only concern was news articles misleading the public. He finished by explaining that it is only BP who have issues."

Yep, today’s petrol buying frenzy is entirely the fault of U.K. media.

But not the driver shortage

The U.K. is undeniably suffering from a shortage of 100,000 truck drivers – but it is not alone.
The Continent is also experiencing an estimated shortfall of 400,000 people qualified to get behind the wheel, according to logistics analysts Transport Intelligence
In some parts of the world, a quarter of driving jobs remain unfilled, according to the International Road Transport Union.
Here is how some countries are trying to fix the problem

Holland

Long-running shortages that predate the pandemic have prompted several transport companies to recruit and train asylum seekers. Schemes can include language classes and help getting a driving license. It has attracted refugees from Syria, Eritrea and Iran.

Germany

The industry has adopted the same approach as Holland of targeting refugees, even making it possible to pass a driving test in Arabic since 2016

It is also trying to attract more women. For example, a German company in Europe’s International Road Transport Union recently employed a female ambassador to help improve its outreach.

Spain

Last December the country reduced the minimum age for driving commercial heavy goods vehicles to 18, hoping to target the high number of unemployed young people in the country

The shortage of young professional drivers in our country is acute, while the youth unemployment rate exceeds 40 per cent,” said Ramón Valdivia, the general director of the country’s road transport association

Poland

The country has one of Europe’s biggest road haulage sectors, but is short an estimated 100,000 drivers due to the job being seen as unattractive, prompting industry figures to call for urgent changes to boost its appeal

It’s essential that improvements are made to guarantee better working conditions to encourage more women and young people into the profession,” said Jan Buczek, president of the Association of International Road Hauliers in Poland

Looks like we are in good (?) company.

And yet all these countries manage to keep the forecourts supplied with fuel and the shops full of food.

What could the difference be...?

varian Fri 24-Sept-21 19:25:13

If our inept government had not said "don't panic" no-one would have panicked.

MayBeMaw Fri 24-Sept-21 19:22:18

Whitewavemark2

GrannyGravy13

Ashcombe

Copied from a post on Facebook:-

"After seeing the news last night about fuel shortages, I popped in to Tesco and I spoke to a very nice tanker driver who was rather informative and told me that the boats carrying fuel are arriving daily at Plymouth, the two depots in Plymouth are extremely well stocked and there is no shortage of drivers. His only concern was news articles misleading the public. He finished by explaining that it is only BP who have issues."

Yep, today’s petrol buying frenzy is entirely the fault of U.K. media.

But not the driver shortage

The U.K. is undeniably suffering from a shortage of 100,000 truck drivers – but it is not alone.
The Continent is also experiencing an estimated shortfall of 400,000 people qualified to get behind the wheel, according to logistics analysts Transport Intelligence
In some parts of the world, a quarter of driving jobs remain unfilled, according to the International Road Transport Union.
Here is how some countries are trying to fix the problem

Holland

Long-running shortages that predate the pandemic have prompted several transport companies to recruit and train asylum seekers. Schemes can include language classes and help getting a driving license. It has attracted refugees from Syria, Eritrea and Iran.

Germany

The industry has adopted the same approach as Holland of targeting refugees, even making it possible to pass a driving test in Arabic since 2016

It is also trying to attract more women. For example, a German company in Europe’s International Road Transport Union recently employed a female ambassador to help improve its outreach.

Spain

Last December the country reduced the minimum age for driving commercial heavy goods vehicles to 18, hoping to target the high number of unemployed young people in the country

The shortage of young professional drivers in our country is acute, while the youth unemployment rate exceeds 40 per cent,” said Ramón Valdivia, the general director of the country’s road transport association

Poland

The country has one of Europe’s biggest road haulage sectors, but is short an estimated 100,000 drivers due to the job being seen as unattractive, prompting industry figures to call for urgent changes to boost its appeal

It’s essential that improvements are made to guarantee better working conditions to encourage more women and young people into the profession,” said Jan Buczek, president of the Association of International Road Hauliers in Poland

Looks like we are in good (?) company.

GillT57 Fri 24-Sept-21 17:45:47

growstuff

JaneJudge

Do you need a special licence to drive a white van? I'm sure my driving licence says I can drive up so many tons

No, you don't - not in the UK, at least. I've driven one a few times when I've done my own removals.

actually the rules have changed. Those of us who passed our driving test many years ago are also permitted to drive vans up to a certain size and tonnage, but younger people cannot, thus my SiL could only hire a van of a certain size when they moved home, but DH could hire a bigger one. I will look it up.

Callistemon Fri 24-Sept-21 17:41:14

Mine's in for repair and I can't remember how much fuel is in it or if there's enough to get home again.

3nanny6 Fri 24-Sept-21 17:33:57

Went out to get shopping and three garages were full of cars and many of them were blocking the roads sitting waiting to enter the garage. Where is this frenzied dash to petrol pumps
coming from one word about panic and it seems many do.
If I run out then I shall bloody well walk the same goes for the food shortage I have enough tins of soup, tomatoes, beans and
everything else and will not buy before February so glad I stocked up and if I can't get things then that is that fed up listening to the doom and gloom too depressing.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-Sept-21 17:26:31

GrannyGravy13

Ashcombe

Copied from a post on Facebook:-

"After seeing the news last night about fuel shortages, I popped in to Tesco and I spoke to a very nice tanker driver who was rather informative and told me that the boats carrying fuel are arriving daily at Plymouth, the two depots in Plymouth are extremely well stocked and there is no shortage of drivers. His only concern was news articles misleading the public. He finished by explaining that it is only BP who have issues."

Yep, today’s petrol buying frenzy is entirely the fault of U.K. media.

But not the driver shortage

GrannyGravy13 Fri 24-Sept-21 17:24:22

Ashcombe

Copied from a post on Facebook:-

"After seeing the news last night about fuel shortages, I popped in to Tesco and I spoke to a very nice tanker driver who was rather informative and told me that the boats carrying fuel are arriving daily at Plymouth, the two depots in Plymouth are extremely well stocked and there is no shortage of drivers. His only concern was news articles misleading the public. He finished by explaining that it is only BP who have issues."

Yep, today’s petrol buying frenzy is entirely the fault of U.K. media.

Ashcombe Fri 24-Sept-21 17:21:26

Copied from a post on Facebook:-

"After seeing the news last night about fuel shortages, I popped in to Tesco and I spoke to a very nice tanker driver who was rather informative and told me that the boats carrying fuel are arriving daily at Plymouth, the two depots in Plymouth are extremely well stocked and there is no shortage of drivers. His only concern was news articles misleading the public. He finished by explaining that it is only BP who have issues."

Blossoming Fri 24-Sept-21 17:17:07

Remind me again, what was Project Fear about?

MayBeMaw Fri 24-Sept-21 17:14:37

PS. My local Tesco petrol station regularly has queues in normal times, especially at the weekend

Remind me not to make a 200 mile trip to Growstuff’s local Tesco petrol station..

MayBeMaw Fri 24-Sept-21 17:11:34

growstuff

MayBeMaw

Filled up before I left Birmingham and while some unleaded pumps were shut, (possibly half) - no queues.

Great! I only have to make a 200 mile round trip next time I need fuel - good to know! hmm

FFS
No need for the heavy sarcasm - I was giving an example of where I was at the time. .
Just as you have been known refer to where you live even if what you describe is not typical for others.

AGAA4 Fri 24-Sept-21 17:09:57

We have known for a while that there is a serious shortage of HGV drivers and this situation was inevitable. Tanker drivers carrying fuel were so poorly paid that they left their dangerous job to drive for supermarkets.

Greyduster Fri 24-Sept-21 16:47:25

Brilliant, Whitewave!?

Greyduster Fri 24-Sept-21 16:46:16

Kitty I hope you manage to find enough to get you back when you get up there. DS says they are struggling to find outlets that haven’t sold out at the moment. He is umming and aahing whether he can afford to use the fuel he has in his tank to come down here tomorrow, in case he can’t get any more. Fingers crossed for you?? and safe journey!

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-Sept-21 15:45:49

In these dark and gloomy times???

grannyactivist Fri 24-Sept-21 15:01:37

[smug mode emoticon]
I'd just like to say that my husband did a one hundred mile cycle ride on his last business trip. The car stayed at home.

[remove smug mode emoticon]
I can't ride a bike, so if it weren't for my bus pass I'd be scuppered! grin