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Whitewavemark2 Sun 26-Sept-21 14:48:56

This is worth a thread of its own

Boris Johnson has admitted he “deeply regrets” going down the Brexit route according to sources close to the former Foreign Secretary. Matt Kelly, editor
thelondoneconomic.com

Gosh if this is true, then I think that there is no doubt that all the crises we are seeing are, as we have argued, the result of Brexit and the abysmal prime minister who was so blinded by the thought of leadership he cared nothing for the country and its people.

FannyCornforth Sun 26-Sept-21 14:50:46

Blimey.
I’m not at all surprised that he thinks that, though.
Where did you read about this WW?

Kali2 Sun 26-Sept-21 14:51:47

Yep- do you have a link for that, please!

Riverwalk Sun 26-Sept-21 14:57:05

Everyone knows that he was never a true Brexiteer, merely an opportunist.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 26-Sept-21 15:00:36

Well I can’t do links but can you see in my op?It is taken from a post on twitter and the second paragraph is a copy and paste if that helps.

They will try and put a lid on it no doubt but I’m sure it is true, because he was instinctively a remainer but only chose Brexit in the gamble that he would get the Tory leadership.

Early Sun 26-Sept-21 15:02:52

This from 2018.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/boris-johnson-deeply-regrets-going-down-brexit-route-close-sources%EF%BB%BF-reveal-101062/

BlueBelle Sun 26-Sept-21 15:03:05

He was always anti leaving but changed his colours to gain the prime ministership which just goes to show what a nasty piece of work he truly is about as genuine as a fake ten Bob note

Blossoming Sun 26-Sept-21 15:04:09

It’s been on Twitter, the original source is “somebody who knows Boris Johnson very well”

Carrie or Dom, perhaps?

www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/boris-johnson-deeply-regrets-going-down-brexit-route-close-sources%EF%BB%BF-reveal-101062/

Blossoming Sun 26-Sept-21 15:05:18

Crossed posts Early, I can’t type very fast smile

GrannyGravy13 Sun 26-Sept-21 15:06:38

@mattkelly results twitter account suspended

thelondoneconomic.com no results found

What Twitter account is this on please?

GrannyGravy13 Sun 26-Sept-21 15:07:09

Thanks blossoming

GrannyGravy13 Sun 26-Sept-21 15:10:24

Nothing new than.

It’s always been known that he was 50-50 on whether to be on the remain or leave side.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 26-Sept-21 15:12:55

No longer though . Deeply regrets.

Pity he hasn’t the work ethic to sort it out.

NotSpaghetti Sun 26-Sept-21 15:16:02

Is there newer info somewhere I wonder?

Early Sun 26-Sept-21 15:16:51

Some more context from the 2016 Reuters article linked to by the London Economic.

www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-johnson/top-brexiteer-boris-johnson-penned-arguments-for-staying-in-eu-report-idUKKBN12F0U3?edition-redirect=uk

What Nicola Sturgeon said at the time:

Those accusations were again aired on Sunday, with Scotland’s first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, telling Sky that his calculation on backing Brexit was “based not on the merits of that argument but probably what he thought was best for his own political advancement”.

lemongrove Sun 26-Sept-21 15:26:21

Tell us something we don’t already know Whitewave

Johnson decided on the Brexit route to help his career....of course he did.
However once committed he stuck to it and did the right things, and that’s what matters.
What PM would have been able to do that...T May certainly couldn’t.
Handling leaving the EU and the pandemic would be a challenge and a half for anybody.

Baggs Sun 26-Sept-21 15:32:59

Agree, lemongrove et al that he supported Brexit to bump his political career up a notch but there's something else to take into account: politicians are supposed to do what voters want them to do rather than to dictate what voters should want. I suspect BJ caught the whiff on the wind and followed it.

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing in a politician.

Promising something that you then have to go back on is something else. Beats me why politicians ever 'promise' anything. Even manifestos are only lists of hopes rather than promises.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 26-Sept-21 15:34:38

Totally agree Baggs

MerylStreep Sun 26-Sept-21 16:08:52

Whitewavemark2
In your desperation to post yet another Boris bashing thread
you’ve made yourself look a little bit silly.
Anyone who is politically aware has read all the links on this thread a long time ago.
Nothing to see here. Move along.

lemongrove Sun 26-Sept-21 16:19:09

Plus ...the tide isn’t turning.

NanKate Sun 26-Sept-21 16:27:09

I’m with you lemongrove and Meryl. ??

NotSpaghetti Sun 26-Sept-21 16:35:37

The May deal that Johnson (and others of course) rejected would have actually worked better than this mess.. I didn't like her but do think she had some integrity and as we all know, unfortunately the NI situation is unresolved.

It's no good saying Johnson has "done what he said he would" because I think that really only relates to leaving the EU.

Lots of other stuff he has not followed through on..
just saying.
I still think he'll be "in" for a while yet.

Blossoming Sun 26-Sept-21 16:46:01

Whitewavemark2. The article is from 2018 and it isn’t even a direct quote. In other words, it’s hearsay.

I am not a Boris Johnson fan, but this is pointless.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 26-Sept-21 16:51:40

Oh dear. If you think that it is pointless or a bit silly I suggest you all ignore it.

I have very broad shoulders and can deal with the brickbats ???

However I do think the suggestion that Johnson deeply regrets Brexit both now and just before he became PM on the Brexit ticket ( how dishonest can one PM be) has merit and is worth bearing in mind as we face crises after crises this winter.

Grammaretto Sun 26-Sept-21 16:53:23

All those bad decisions are now coming back to haunt him.
But why can't anyone in English politics bring themselves to mention Brexit?
I have missed today at the Labour Conference. Maybe its been mentioned there?
Please may the next Tory leader NOT be an old Etonian. These people have no understanding of the lives of ordinary people. How can they?