Keep this one simple - if HGV driver from Europe, would you come to help out on a 3 months contract?

Not a hope!

How come the German press was reporting driver shortages and incentives offered by Tesco and M&S at least three weeks ago?

www.dw.com/en/5000-pound-sign-on-bonus-for-uk-truck-drivers-amid-shortage/av-59097027

Smileless2012

Yes for the reasons MerylStreep and henetha have posted.

Same here....it’s all about the money, honey.

No

Question from SIL, will the UK goverment pay for them to go to the UK, including accomodation, what about Healthcare and Insurance etc.
The proposal is being widely talked about over here on various sites but there does not seem to be any thought about the basics.
Rather tongue in cheek he is asking if he went to the UK tomorrow would the government have everything ready for him to start work.
Don't shoot the messenger!!!

NO.

Relax everybody, our leader has put the army on standby.
Just waiting till they spring into action!

On the news they said 150 army tanker drivers on standby. Not sure 150 will be enough and why are they on standby, there must be work for them to do now.

Kali2

MerylStreep

If I couldn’t pay my rent or feed my children and no welfare net to help me, then Yes I would. Pride wouldn’t come into it.

Well, as some have said, there are shortages in the EU still- so much much easier to go and work there with good conditions, higher salaries, more stable currencies, respect, no red tape due to Schengen, etc. So I will stick to

NO

You posed the question if HGV driver from Europe, would you come to help out on a 3 month contract
I wouldn’t care what country wanted my skills. If I’m out of work and someone wants to employ me, that’s where I’ll go.
A country’s politics wouldn’t come into it.

Growstuff

Prices may matter but we can't keep them artificially low if transporting goods costs more we have to pay more just as if vegetables are costing more to pick we have to pay more to buy them.
Just because the median income is 25k per annum doesn't mean some people should be expected to work 60 hour weeks for long periods of time because they have a certain skill set.
I accept no one has a magic money tree but if we accept rising energy costs why should transport or vegetable picking be any different. If we actually pay what we need to for everything we'll all be tightening our belts but it's what needs to happen.
I saw a farm in Lincolnshire advertising for cabbage pickers with a wage of 62k per annum who do you think will be paying for that?

yes, because I could earn a fortune to what I would get in my own country...

NO! Drivers have much better conditions in Europe so why would they.

NO

- even if I applied today - how much would it cost and how long would I need to wait for the Home Office to make a decision? How long before I got my visa in my hand and the right to work?
- then I would need to apply for a job
- then I would need to put my affairs in order (in some EU countries you need to give at least 3 months notice on a rented flat)
- then I would need to find somewhere to live in the UK - or am I expected to live in my lorry?
- then there is the fear that with the current petrol chaos I might not be able to make deliveries and would I be paid?

So by the time all of this is resolved at best it will be sometime in November - and with the visas set to expire on Christmas Eve - is it really worth it for 4-6 weeks of work?

No.

It's not even three months. The earliest they could arrive is late October and they have to be gone by Xmas. Not a very tempting offer to those HGV drivers who were booted pout because of brexit and have the freedom to work in any of 27 EU countries.

Thanks all . it seems most of us agree, and it is a

NO

Wait and see.

At least those drivers who lost their job in Derbyshire will find new jobs quickly. Good for them!

Considering none of us are HGV drivers from Europe this survey is meaningless.

It’s like asking HGV drivers from Europe to pretend they’re 65 year old grandmothers.

Now I have to say I have heard daft things in my time - but .......

NO ….such a blooming cheek
“We don’t want you so go home”
“Oh do come back for a little brief time to help us out a pickle”

My answer would be f o

Kandinsky
We did actually meet a 65 year old Grandmother HGV driver in a lorry park in Romania. Wonderful woman ?
She was very proud of the fact that she’d never taken a test in her life. That was no surprise as I’ve met too many Eastern European’s who’ve never taken a driving test.

Would totally depend on the deal on the table.

FlexibleFriend

Growstuff

Prices may matter but we can't keep them artificially low if transporting goods costs more we have to pay more just as if vegetables are costing more to pick we have to pay more to buy them.
Just because the median income is 25k per annum doesn't mean some people should be expected to work 60 hour weeks for long periods of time because they have a certain skill set.
I accept no one has a magic money tree but if we accept rising energy costs why should transport or vegetable picking be any different. If we actually pay what we need to for everything we'll all be tightening our belts but it's what needs to happen.
I saw a farm in Lincolnshire advertising for cabbage pickers with a wage of 62k per annum who do you think will be paying for that?

You're contradicting yourself again. You wrote that drivers have to work 60 hours to earn £50,000, so presumably they can earn £25,000 (ie the same or more than half the population) for 30 hours work. Does somebody have a big stick and make them work longer hours?

How are you going to support the people on below average incomes who will end up paying for this?

Sorry, but you sound like an old-fashioned trade unionist and I can't take what you write that seriously.

25 k per annum is very low for what they do isn’t it ? I’d just laugh if I were them.

NO.

I have just read that according to the ONS 10,000 EU HGV drivers left the U.K.

This is a relatively small proportion of the driver shortage.

GrannyGravy13

I have just read that according to the ONS 10,000 EU HGV drivers left the U.K.

This is a relatively small proportion of the driver shortage.

But in a system where there is no slack even the loss of a relatively few drivers can have a disproportionately large effect.

We know that the transport industry has been having problems with a driver shortage for a number of years now. Problems that were, to a certain, extent masked by the use of EU drivers. Losing them has tipped it from 'just about managing' to 'breakdown'. It was foreseen...