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GillT57 Tue 28-Sept-21 14:27:13

From The Times: Britain will launch rockets next year, vows Boris Johnson

Spaceports from Cornwall to Shetland will launch rockets into orbit next year as Boris Johnson promises to create 'galactic Britain'. The Prime Minister insisted that Britain cannot remain 'earthbound' and must seize leadership in the multi billion pound space industry. Chris Smith Whitehall Editor

Is this before or after we complete HS2/Cross rail, build the vanity yacht? It is getting to be increasingly like living through a rather cheesy and unrealistic political drama.

TopsyIrene06 Wed 29-Sept-21 09:08:29

Grannynannywanny. Hilarious and yes please.

ayse Wed 29-Sept-21 09:02:28

Alegrias1

I don't get annoyed about the PM being slagged off, it's no more than he deserves. But I do get annoyed with the attitude that we need to spend money "fixing our problems before we start messing around in space".

This is about investment in industry. We've cut off our connections to Europe when it comes to science and technology, and the space strategy, which is an entirely acceptable economic and scientific program, might help us get back where we should be. Probably not, but at least it's something.

Anybody complaining about how we should be spending money on what you deem to be morally superior, where do you think the money comes from? Answer: a working economy. If you think we're going to get that without investment, you're very wrong.

I’m all for investing in our economy but we also need to invest in people such as nurses, teachers, plumbers, electricians, lorry drivers.

Let’s invest in sustainable energy technology such as wave power and hydrogen fuels and even produce the goods at home for export. Let’s invest in removing all the rubbish that we have floating round in space or in the oceans or landfill.
I’m all for investment in science and technology but space is not at the top.

Investment in sustainability is where our resources need to be now, IMHO

Lucca Wed 29-Sept-21 08:30:50

Great minds Alegrias

Lucca Wed 29-Sept-21 08:30:13

Galaxy

So let's get this straight Janejudge, you have pet circus mice and an astronaut in your house.

Note poster’s username…….

Alegrias1 Wed 29-Sept-21 08:29:06

That's rich from someone called Galaxy grin grin

Galaxy Wed 29-Sept-21 08:27:04

So let's get this straight Janejudge, you have pet circus mice and an astronaut in your house.

Petera Wed 29-Sept-21 08:19:30

Alegrias1

JaneJudge

I think I can top trump you all.... my husband worked for Nasa grin

At JPL? Does he know my DH? ?

I know someone who has a ridge on Mars named after them.

There's a Mars Bar with my name on it.

I'll get my coat.

Alegrias1 Wed 29-Sept-21 08:15:08

JaneJudge

I think I can top trump you all.... my husband worked for Nasa grin

At JPL? Does he know my DH? ?

I know someone who has a ridge on Mars named after them.

NotSpaghetti Wed 29-Sept-21 08:10:46

Ha ha Luca.
Johnson of course doesn't want adversity for himself, obviously! grin

Barmeyoldbat Wed 29-Sept-21 08:07:35

Johnson wants to be like Churchill, a hero to the nation but what he should remember is that his hero lost the first election after the war because his total disregard for the people. Let’s hope history repeats itself.

Lucca Wed 29-Sept-21 07:53:45

NotSpaghetti

Johnson is only happy when he has a slogan. I expect he'd be even happier if it included a superlative.

Per ardua ad astra?

Lucca Wed 29-Sept-21 07:52:55

JaneJudge

I think I can top trump you all.... my husband worked for Nasa grin

Oh nice one JaneJudge !!

NotSpaghetti Wed 29-Sept-21 07:51:54

Johnson is only happy when he has a slogan. I expect he'd be even happier if it included a superlative.

Froglady Wed 29-Sept-21 07:43:33

Grannynannywanny

Could we crowd fund to pay for Boris to be strapped to the outside of it when it takes off?

I'd help with the cost if that happened!

JaneJudge Wed 29-Sept-21 07:42:13

btw I did manage to speak to him yesterday, eventually....he said the photographs were of that Elon Musk thing taken on some beach and they looked like bubbles because of atmospheric changes/speed/light etc. He explained it in great detail but I just heard Elon Musk - beach- blah blah blah. I imagine I am a dreadful disappointment

JaneJudge Wed 29-Sept-21 07:39:41

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Alegrias1 Wed 29-Sept-21 05:34:15

I don't get annoyed about the PM being slagged off, it's no more than he deserves. But I do get annoyed with the attitude that we need to spend money "fixing our problems before we start messing around in space".

This is about investment in industry. We've cut off our connections to Europe when it comes to science and technology, and the space strategy, which is an entirely acceptable economic and scientific program, might help us get back where we should be. Probably not, but at least it's something.

Anybody complaining about how we should be spending money on what you deem to be morally superior, where do you think the money comes from? Answer: a working economy. If you think we're going to get that without investment, you're very wrong.

growstuff Wed 29-Sept-21 05:26:36

Bodach I guess I'm included in the people your comments are aimed at.

So I'll start off by saying that I've been to the National Space Centre in Leicester. A friend of a friend works at the Harwell Space Cluster in Oxford and I've heard a couple of things about what the people actually doing the work there think of the government.

What really sticks in my craw is that Johnson takes the credit for this, as though he's some heroic Boris Skywalker. The language used is farcical - "galactic" replaces "global". At least Branson used his own money for his flight into space. I know very well about the potential of space technology, not Johnson's "boy's own" version of it as an opportunity for national gloating.

Moreover, the country is in the middle of a number of crises, even if the head in the clouders can sweep them to one side. We really do have actual shortages, rising fuel bills, cuts to benefits, increases in student loan repayments and NICs, crumbling hospitals and lengthening waiting lists, unsafe schools, a stubborn number of Covid hospitalisations and deaths and so much more. Yet, Johnson thinks we can all (is non-head in the clouders) be distracted by the promise of sending rockets into space.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 29-Sept-21 03:17:21

“If Global Britain can achieve a petrol crisis, crops rotting in fields, soaring gas prices and empty supermarket shelves, just think what we can do as Galactic Britain!”

Whitewavemark2 Wed 29-Sept-21 02:56:40

JaneJudge

MayBee70

Is that the Johnson who said f**k business?

well anything with a pulse will do

?????

Hetty58 Tue 28-Sept-21 23:52:14

Deedaa - and there's the increase in child poverty, too. It's like the lunatics are running the asylum.

Deedaa Tue 28-Sept-21 23:35:25

The problem is that now we are cut off from a lot of the scientific collaboration in Europe Johnson is trying to promote "World Beating" projects that we cannot afford and that he knows nothing about.

It's the 21st century and we are still faced with homeless people on the streets, working people who can't afford a decent roof over their heads, people having to use food banks ( who would have thought that food banks would be a thing in the 2000s?) Can't afford to keep the triple lock on pensions, can't afford a decent pay rise for nurses, can't afford TV licences for pensioners, but anything Boris thinks up is fine.

Ro60 Tue 28-Sept-21 23:25:22

Beam me up Scottie ? - or is this what he wants to say?

JaneJudge Tue 28-Sept-21 22:56:50

MayBee70

Is that the Johnson who said f**k business?

well anything with a pulse will do

MayBee70 Tue 28-Sept-21 22:40:12

Is that the Johnson who said f**k business?