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Now is the winter of Britain’s discontent

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Whitewavemark2 Sat 02-Oct-21 15:57:09

Day after day there are articles like this in the worlds press.

Kali2 Sat 02-Oct-21 21:37:02

lemongrove

All’s fair in love, war and politics it seems.

No it is not.

You have no shame, no shame at all. Unbelievable.

lemongrove Sat 02-Oct-21 21:34:09

I see things as they are Alegrias
A more diplomatic PM would have said ‘ it isn’t about cancer outcomes or health, the policy of levelling up is about wage growth’ but the message would have been the same.

lemongrove Sat 02-Oct-21 21:32:07

All’s fair in love, war and politics it seems.

Alegrias1 Sat 02-Oct-21 21:30:05

Oh dear God.

Have you no shame at all?

lemongrove Sat 02-Oct-21 21:28:49

GrannyGravy13

No excuses from me, I will try and find the entire interview.

I have found and read the interview.
Johnson was asked what was the measure of levelling up for the people of this country and was asked about cancer outcomes and health....and he responded that his measure was that wage growth, never mind cancer outcomes etc was the key to the policy of levelling up.Which it is!
Just a typical Labour ( Ashworth) ploy to make out that the government ‘doesn’t care about cancer patients’.
Levelling up was always about more money for people living
In the North, not cancer outcomes, but I guess there will be faux outrage.

Kali2 Sat 02-Oct-21 21:25:55

gree, I don't like turkey either.

There should be plenty of pork available, cheap ... gammon perhaps.

Urmstongran Sat 02-Oct-21 20:50:53

lemongrove

I’m hoping there will be no turkeys available.....then we can have beef or ham.
Have got my Ocado Christmas slot ( smug mode) and no delivery charge, yippee.

Agree lemongrove!
If turkey was so delicious we’d eat it more than once a year.
?

denbylover Sat 02-Oct-21 20:37:27

Thank you Josianne. Apologies from me as well, I misunderstood. If your family are in the Auckland region then yes, they will be getting a bit fed up with the present situation. PM to review this week re Alert Levels but with new cases coming to light up there, who knows ??‍♀️. Huge push now to become vaccinated, that seems to be the light at the end of the tunnel. Best wishes.

Josianne Sat 02-Oct-21 20:11:46

Apologies * denbylover*. As I stated, "smug" refers to our good natured family competitiveness as to which of us has the better life. Those in NZ usually win out!
I hope you are able to open up soon.

PippaZ Sat 02-Oct-21 20:10:59

It is quite disgusting that people don't even know or, it appears care, that in most cities poverty remains over-represented in inner locations and wealth in the outer suburbs. Low wages have always been an issue in York. So shall we laugh about that?

Johnson will only make the poor poorer - that's what the Conservatives do. It would be a good guess that he hoped he would be able to tell them he is saving them by the run-up to the next election - even though he is the thief of their ability to survive.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 02-Oct-21 20:10:09

denbylover

Josianne

I think all countries have their different problems.
My family in New Zealand say they feel like hermits and despite feeling smug initially are now finding the situation onerous.

I don’t think we have ever felt ‘smug’! What a ridiculous comment. Many emotions here certainly, but smugness was never one of them. We are doing what we must as a small country to deal with a virus that is the biggest threat (but in a different way) probably since WW2. Nothing is currently ideal, we got the virus later than many Northern Hemisphere countries, it makes sense our re-emergence, opening up etc will take longer. Yes, of course we’re looking forward to
opening up, hopefully in the safest way possible.

Mind you I’d be smug if I lived in NZ???

denbylover Sat 02-Oct-21 20:06:31

Josianne

I think all countries have their different problems.
My family in New Zealand say they feel like hermits and despite feeling smug initially are now finding the situation onerous.

I don’t think we have ever felt ‘smug’! What a ridiculous comment. Many emotions here certainly, but smugness was never one of them. We are doing what we must as a small country to deal with a virus that is the biggest threat (but in a different way) probably since WW2. Nothing is currently ideal, we got the virus later than many Northern Hemisphere countries, it makes sense our re-emergence, opening up etc will take longer. Yes, of course we’re looking forward to
opening up, hopefully in the safest way possible.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 02-Oct-21 20:03:43

To compound Johnson’s dreadful remark, he knows very well that any wage growth will be totally cancelled out by inflation.

So no truth either.

PippaZ Sat 02-Oct-21 19:52:14

Josianne

MerylStreep

Zoejory

And to top it all off the latest Yougov poll has given the Tories an 8 point lead!

All together now Always look on the bright side of life, ta da ta da
??????????
Anyone know any good jokes. ?

I found you one in this thread MerylStreep.
York, beautiful city that it is, has a doughnut population.
The mind boggles at the size of its population.
Sorry to anyone in York.

I said it. Many people will say it. Where do you think we are?

GrannyGravy13 Sat 02-Oct-21 19:49:29

No excuses from me, I will try and find the entire interview.

Hetty58 Sat 02-Oct-21 19:49:27

Not proud of being British any more - quite ashamed and embarrassed actually. Still, I seem to be surrounded by people who think Boris has done a good job - so I despair, I really do!

Alegrias1 Sat 02-Oct-21 19:42:51

Deflection, imagine that.

JaneJudge Sat 02-Oct-21 19:42:42

He means poor people wont be able to pay for the privatised NHS too. Ordinary people who may have lived with the correct treatment will die because their life will be assessed by a loss adjuster

Josianne Sat 02-Oct-21 19:41:41

MerylStreep

Zoejory

And to top it all off the latest Yougov poll has given the Tories an 8 point lead!

All together now Always look on the bright side of life, ta da ta da
??????????
Anyone know any good jokes. ?

I found you one in this thread MerylStreep.
York, beautiful city that it is, has a doughnut population.
The mind boggles at the size of its population.
Sorry to anyone in York.

Alegrias1 Sat 02-Oct-21 19:24:56

Please, Tory ladies, don't try to excuse this.

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-labour-jonathan-ashworth-bbc-prime-minister-b958478.html

Kali2 Sat 02-Oct-21 19:23:32

Found it

youtu.be/b630S_vwwYs

despicable, appalling, shameful

Whitewavemark2 Sat 02-Oct-21 19:22:20

Interview on the BBC.

It is all over social media.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 02-Oct-21 19:20:21

Whitewavemark2

This

“I've given you the most important metric which is, never mind life expectancy, never mind cancer outcomes, look at wage growth."

I work in a hospice. And I’m reeling that a remark so callous, so cruel, could have been uttered by the prime minister.

Hi have you a link please?

I would like to see what he said, where he said it and to whom?

Kali2 Sat 02-Oct-21 19:03:49

I was sort of hoping you would say this had been made up by the press, or twisted...

but this is just so so callous, cruel and despicable. If anyone, just anyone- on GN or elsewhere still support him now- then, I just don't know where we can go from there ...

Whitewavemark2 Sat 02-Oct-21 18:59:28

This

“I've given you the most important metric which is, never mind life expectancy, never mind cancer outcomes, look at wage growth."

I work in a hospice. And I’m reeling that a remark so callous, so cruel, could have been uttered by the prime minister.