Conservative party conference outcomes

GrannyGravy13

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Even the experts disagree! Even now.

Nah, not really.

I hope so too Kali2. I voted in good faith (as did everyone) according to my conscience. I researched, read a lot of articles from various sources and experts in their fields. I wasn’t influenced by Facebook (I have never joined).

Even the experts disagree! Even now. Time will tell I suppose.

Yes, I am fully aware of that.

If you only voted Tory and Johnson for Brexit- I hope you feel good about it, and will never regret it.

I don’t think I sound left wing Kali2. I’m working class as were my parents. Brought up in a rented house in Old Trafford. Went to a non fee- paying grammar school. Joined Unison when I worked within the NHS and remained a member for over 30 years. I just happen to believe in fairness.

I’m not a natural Tory. I voted for Blair in the past. I voted for Boris because he was the only candidate who unequivocally promised to respect the result of the Brexit referendum.

P.S Alegrias is right. The article is nonsense. You only have to read its date to know why it was published.

Perhaps they weren’t welcome with the increase in drunkenness, peeing in the streets and stabbing

Good heavens! We can manage that here in the NE with our very own locals...no need for EU workers.. ?

That article is dangerous speculation and lies whipped up by a member of UKIP. No basis whatsoever for her claims.

So if the people of Lincolnshire believed it, more fool them. And us.

Should say some, otherwise there’ll be another accusation laid at my door!!!!!

Whitewavemark2

I seem to remember that Boston and Lincolnshire were the biggest leave voters.

I assume that they also thought that there were sufficient pickers raring to pick up the slack once the Europeans returned to where they were more welcomed.

There is so much you could say isn’t there?

Well they must have pickers, much of our plentiful local produce comes from there. Perhaps they weren’t welcome with the increase in drunkenness, peeing in the streets and stabbing
www.express.co.uk/news/uk/691009/Spalding-shooting-gangs-eastern-European-migrants-Lincolnshire-UKIP

I seem to remember that Boston and Lincolnshire were the biggest leave voters.

I assume that they also thought that there were sufficient pickers raring to pick up the slack once the Europeans returned to where they were more welcomed.

There is so much you could say isn’t there?

Excellent piecework rates with potential to earn up to £30 per hour and all year round work available.

Hmm... piecework....potential to earn....up to £30... ok

I guess people who believed Brexit was a good idea might believe they're going to get steady work at fabulous rates...

www.in2town.co.uk/boston-lincs-news/boston-lincolnshire-farm-offers-30-an-hour-to-pick-broccoli/

I don’t remember people talking about broccoli operatives 5 years ago or desperately wanting brexit to happen so they could pay more for their food. Again, I think it must be my dodgy memory playing up again…..

You do sound very left wing now, lol!

It's a hard balance- you do understand inflation, I hope.

Broccoli pickers (now called operatives) can earn £30 p.h. in Burton. And not just short term contracts! It’s a heavily Brexit-voting town. Residents are delighted hoping the higher wages will mean locals have more to spend in their town centre. Good news surely?

And before anyone jumps in to say ‘what about the increased cost - maybe - of my 60p head of broccoli’ ... maybe it’s time to value our workers a bit more. It can’t be morally right to buy cheap veg from Morrison’s or Asda knowing that some poor sod has worked full time in the fields to get it for you and that worker is struggling to make a decent living.

Indeed, so when people say 'its done and dusted, accept it'

done and dusted what, how ? Nobody knew then, and nobody knows now- almost half a decade later !!!

But it is certainly looking VERY massively different to what was promised- now that we know for sure!

There never was a brexit plan.

There was a plan to con people into voting Leave, but absolutely no plan for what would happen next.

No, he/they never ever said it- that is clear.

But the arrogance, the sheer hypocrisy and worse- of now pretending it was the plan all along is just sick. and I truly hope the vast majorty of people will see it for what it is.

Bar 1 or 2 on GN, but that's ok.

MayBee70

I’m being brave tonight and watching QT. Can anyone tell me when we were told that part of the brexit plan was to create a high skill high wage society! I know my memory is pretty rubbish these days but I’m sure this has only been mentioned in the last few weeks (if that long). Or has this really been the plan for a long time and I missed it (due to not watching QT for a year or so).

I think if they had chimed that one out, we would remember it MayBee.

I don't think they could have done. Saying that would have led to people asking what their plan was to achieve this nirvana after Brexit was "done".

There is no chance on the evidence of the last two years that they would ever have planned for anything.

They know they would have been challenged on such a declaration; they would never have said it.

MayBee70

I’m being brave tonight and watching QT. Can anyone tell me when we were told that part of the brexit plan was to create a high skill high wage society! I know my memory is pretty rubbish these days but I’m sure this has only been mentioned in the last few weeks (if that long). Or has this really been the plan for a long time and I missed it (due to not watching QT for a year or so).

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36139282#

I've found this which shows that someone somewhere had a back of a fag packet dream that this might work. I can't imagine for one moment that anyone had what might be thought of as a plan. If so we've yet to see it haven't we.

It seems Vote Leave had a hope based on the unscientific observation that immigration up = wages down. Immigration down = wages up. A nice selling point based on nothing.

The article also mentions that wages up = prices up = wages buy less = nobody is better off.

It is not your memory, it is all part of the mass gas lighting of the electorate. I thought I was going to develop an aneurysm listening to Zadawi.

I’m being brave tonight and watching QT. Can anyone tell me when we were told that part of the brexit plan was to create a high skill high wage society! I know my memory is pretty rubbish these days but I’m sure this has only been mentioned in the last few weeks (if that long). Or has this really been the plan for a long time and I missed it (due to not watching QT for a year or so).

Dinahmo

For every bin man that drives the lorry there will be at least 2 that will be out of work.

But the average income of those still employed might increase.

For every bin man that drives the lorry there will be at least 2 that will be out of work.