Wales you are having Covid Passports. Is this a 'Fix?'

So should we not have less access for those who received the AZ vaccine than those who have received the Pfizer after all they are more likely to transmit than those who received Pfizer.

Bibbity

I am in Wales. And I am married to a night club manager. I am happy with it.

Is a double vaccination enough or do I have to have the booster before I can come and live it up Bibbity?

Even worse than the vote was the sight of AMs staying in the building and looking out on a few protestors outside. Why didn't they just run the gauntlet and make their way out. Look at what happened to Iain Duncan Smith the other day. I'm sure the Cardiff ones would have just been in good humour, at least I hope so.

I’ve done my homework, here’s the latest on transmission rates with and without the vaccine. This is 5 days ago.
www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people-are-less-likely-spread-covid-new-research-finds-n1280583

Varian you could just produce a paper copy of your vaccination records. Why should people have to download an app that takes ages, relies on your phone not being undercharged etc. I was on a train 2 weeks ago and a boy was wandering up the aisle, asking if he could use anyone's charger as he was down to 40%. He did find a compatible one in the end. His ticket was on it. I don't like the idea of being tracked by our phones.

But my understanding is the impact on transmission rate is not yet proved? Alegrias where are you, I am having the same discussion as the last time.

Bibbity it was recommended by the Chief Medical Officer, endorsed by Public Health Wales, who do have the relevant degrees. The Welsh Government does listen to the experts who have the relevant degrees, and act on their recommendations.

Does Boris Johnson have "relevant degrees"?

No... because they have done everything in their power to stop the virus.

Unless people have the relative degrees then they don't get to make decisions that effect everyone else.

I am a Liberal Democrat but believe that vaccine passports, in our present circumstances, make sense.

If you are double jabbed you are less of a threat to your fellow citizens. So why not prove that you have been double jabbed?

Scotland has introduced a covid vaccination passport. You only need to use it if you're going to be at events with many people as far as I know. I have no problems doing this as I'm thinking of others, as well as myself.

It's not a gut reaction its asking that people are treated with empathy and understanding. I understand the risks of covid versus the risks of vaccine, but I also understand the risks of dividing a society in that way. Those who have had the vaccine can still transmit covid, are they too 'transmitting the virus at will'

Sorry but that’s a gut reaction to a sad instance, not a logical response Galaxy. Well over 100,000 lives have been saved by the vaccine, and comparatively, very few people have died as a direct result of being vaccinated. For their loved ones it is tragic of course, but many more families have lost young and healthy parents who refused the vaccine and caught Covid.

The information is there. The vaccine works. Like anything in life reactions happen.
But the greater public health is more important. And one sad story doesn't allow those children to then spread a virus at will

Its horrific to be honest. I have said this before but in my area a young mother died from complications of the vaccine, she left two very young children. It's not beyond the realms of imagination that those children may have reservations about the vaccine (they may not of course but its possible) what they need is support and compassion, and information, not coercion and being divided from the rest of society.

I am in Wales. And I am married to a night club manager. I am happy with it.

LauraNorder

If it keeps people safe and protects the NHS for another winter then I’m all for it.

Me too and they will be having them in Sydney, when they start opening up soon.

Well in France we have to have our Covid vaccination pass as an app, or paper form. We have to show it for bars, restaurants, cinemas, concerts, museums and all confined spaces apart from shops. We also have to wear a mask nearly everywhere.
Our COVID infection rates have dropped radically. It does work!
I am in England at the moment and wear a mask all the time as fearful that I might catch it here.

I've had the double vaccination, most people have and many have acquired immunity. We downloaded the Covid Pass but that was a real palaver, and taking it with us when we go to large outdoor event in Manchester on Sunday. Enjoy the Stereophonics in December Casdon.

I am thankful I do not have any condition that requires frequent visits to doctor or hospital, as so many have. There have been so many stories on here of people suffering dreadfully because of policies of the past year. I do have one chronic condition that is fairly well monitored and have had just phone annual consultations lately and TBH I am etermined to see medics as little as possible. An old friend of mine died last year in St. George's London after 2 weeks in an induced coma, following a fall. She was only 67. Not even her 95 year old mother could see her, and the same thing as happened in Wales too. All compassion has gone out of the window.

Totally off topic I know!

‘The principle of the thing’ is sound in my book fairfraise.
It only covers:
Nightclubs
Indoor, non-seated events for more than 500 people, such as concerts or conventions
Outdoor non-seated events for more than 4,000 people
Any setting or event with more than 10,000 people in attendance
People who are fully vaccinated in Wales can already download the NHS Covid Pass to securely show and share their vaccine status. It also allows people to show they have had a negative lateral flow test result within the last 48 hours.
I’m going to the Stereophonics et al concert in December at the Millennium Stadium, and glad it will be safe. The choice is simple, have the vaccine or don’t go to nightclubs or large scale events so everybody else who does is safer, everybody has a choice.

fairfraise that is my point too. Really not happy about it. I think the same thing could well happen here too in England. Politicians think it is their 'right' to manipulate to get their choice of result.

If it keeps people safe and protects the NHS for another winter then I’m all for it.

I live in Wales and I'm appalled by this. It was apparently an accident, in that one AM could not make his Zoom connection. If he had been able to it would have been tied and the Presiding Officer would have voted against as apparently he should. Why anyone should have to,produce papers about their health, to another person with no medical qualifications, when they go into a nightclub smacks of an authoritarian state and Drakeford is just revelling in it.

It won't affect me personally as I don't do nightclubs or large events as such, but it's the principle of the thing!

I live in Wales, the Welsh Parliament voted and I am thankful
they voted for the passport.