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Chris Packham's home and arson attack

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Kali2 Sun 10-Oct-21 16:40:28

This is just appalling and it must be so frightening for him and his family, including his step-daugther. Why is this not treated as a terrorist attack?

Just awful.

Sadgrandma Tue 12-Oct-21 15:15:49

I fully agree with Chris Packham and, although people are entitled to their views, setting fire to properties and making death threats is no way to get sympathy for people's alternative views. If anything it has to opposite effect. Why are those people so stupid as to not see that. Same goes for those Insulate Britain idiots.

Alegrias1 Tue 12-Oct-21 14:55:54

www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/30/chris-packham-says-dead-fox-was-left-outside-his-house

news.sky.com/story/chris-packham-dead-badger-strung-up-outside-presenters-home-11939344

So many coincidences.

Dee1012 Tue 12-Oct-21 14:52:12

Nobody deserves the sort of cowardly treatment that Chris Packham is receiving and there is no excuse for it.
It makes me sick!
Chris has the right to stand up and speak out for what he believes in without any of this. If people disagree with his viewpoint let them do so through open, free and civilised debate.

Alegrias1 Tue 12-Oct-21 14:51:40

Hate him, eh?

That's nice.

NoddingGanGan Tue 12-Oct-21 14:47:32

It's not an attack on him personally, there are other instances nearby which the police are looking at because it appears they may be linked. It wasn't his cow that was killed. There's no evidence to support his outrageous public allegations that he's been targeted in any way and that's why so many of us hate him. He'll take every opportunity to point the finger of blame at any country sport enthusiast whilst simultaneously encouraging the balaclava brigade to terrorise citizens, including young children, on their own land. He's pure evil in my books.

Alioop Tue 12-Oct-21 14:18:52

He speaks his mind and sticks up for cruelty to animals when they are being used as "sport" by sick individuals and probably the same idiotic people who did this to him. Hope they are caught and charged.

effalump Tue 12-Oct-21 14:04:44

Chestnut:
I think this is what happens when people's God given rights and liberties are taken away. Especially when you see politicians ignoring what the government is asking of people. You will end up with Civil unrest.

ExDancer Tue 12-Oct-21 13:59:33

Nannacool, I don't understand what you mean
I quote
"As I understand it, it was a stolen car which was torched and just happened to be outside his isolated house, another one, part of the same gang was stolen and killed a Foresters cow a mile away and was also torched."
Did someone kill a cow? And set it alight? A mile away?

Sorry, I haven't worked out how to put quotes into a little grey box, blame my computer illiteracy.

Oldwoman70 Tue 12-Oct-21 13:50:44

Despite what some are saying this was not a "coincidence" but an attack on Chris Packham. Some people may not agree with his views but if that is the case why don't they ask to talk with him about it and put their point view? I am sure he would be prepared to sit down and discuss the issue with them. There are people whose views I disagree with but I accept they are free to express those views without the fear of intimidation and attack

Kim19 Tue 12-Oct-21 13:43:44

Was singularly unimpressed with CP's involvement of children and the Royal Family to try to get his message over. However, certainly wish him no ill whatsoever. Just wish he would stick to pounding his message on his own nature shows and that way we could choose whether to listen to him or nor. Shame on those who threaten him or his family physically.

Petera Tue 12-Oct-21 13:42:23

LadyGracie

I don't agree with an awful lot Chris Packham says or does so I don't watch him.
I do however like Nigel Farage.

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LadyGracie Tue 12-Oct-21 13:37:34

I don't agree with an awful lot Chris Packham says or does so I don't watch him.
I do however like Nigel Farage.

helgawills Tue 12-Oct-21 13:36:09

Those who try to defend so called 'Countryside Traditions' would perhaps like to return to feudal system, maybe slavery? I thought we were moving on?

Bluecat Tue 12-Oct-21 13:31:43

Unfortunately, environmentalists frequently end up dead. It doesn't usually make the news because they aren't famous. Usually it is because they threaten the interests of big business and its employees. Often the victims are indigenous people, opposing the destruction of the forests or the pollution of their water. It happens all the time.

The harassment of Chris Packham and the attack on his home shows how far some people will go to try to intimidate him into silence. It must be frightening for him and his family. I read that he wonders if he will get killed for his views. It's ridiculous that he should have to feel that way.

As someone said, I detest Nigel Farage and all that he represents but I am not going to try to burn his house down. I hope that the people harassing Packham will be identified and arrested.

Nanacool Tue 12-Oct-21 13:30:25

Packham following his own untruthful agenda as usual. As I understand it, it was a stolen car which was torched and just happened to be outside his isolated house, another one, part of the same gang was stolen and killed a Foresters cow a mile away and was also torched. Once again Packham has got his facts wrong, about time he put the record straight, but I wont hold my breath.

Danma Tue 12-Oct-21 13:17:41

2 vehicles stolen in the same area, one used in a crime and then set alight, the other also set alight

pinkjj27 Tue 12-Oct-21 12:51:30

He lives very close to me in the same area. I went to the same university as he did. We live in a rural area with famous forest.
There are still many blood sports supporters, traditional land owners and farmers in the area. They do not support his views.

I have even heard of dog fighting matches still taking places in this area.

I used to teach a girl whose father, a land owner, hated Chris Packham because of what he called “his simplistic naive view of nature that threaten the whole traditional way of British culture. (Elitism) (I disliked the student and her father.)

My guess is that’s why the poor man is targeted. He is not an extremist he is an environmentalist and an animal rights activist. He doesn’t avolated aggressive protest, he is highly intelligent and knowledgeable, if socially little awkward at times.
I wholeheartedly support his views. This is a hate crime and should be treated as one. There is no justification for this what so ever.

vegansrock Tue 12-Oct-21 12:24:34

So they just drove up to a random house and set the gates on fire then? of course it was an attack on him. he’s been targeted numerous times, has dead animals on his doorstep etc.

trisher Tue 12-Oct-21 12:23:00

TanaMa

Like him or loathe him and his ideals - I thought this was a Country with Free Speech. Isn't that why Choudary and his ilk are allowed to spout their evil in public without being brought up sharp by 'do gooders' or even the Institution?

Not sure why this was brought into the discussion but Anjem Choudary was subject to a great many restrictions on his communications for his unacceptable hate speech. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57878910

I find Chris Packham a little irritating, but he is a dedicated campaigner. I think it's probably a smaller step from advocating and enjoying blood sports, and seeing animals suffer, to inflicting violence on other humans than most think.

Alegrias1 Tue 12-Oct-21 12:20:47

Danma

Where is the evidence that this was an attack on him?

There were two vehicles stolen from the same area and both were set alight less than a mile apart (I understand)
There has also previously been a vehicle arson incident within a mile of Mr Packham’s home where a fence was singed too

Too many people jumping to conclusions when even Mr Packham says he doesn’t know how it happened

He said: “On Friday morning at 12.30am, two hooded and masked men drove a vehicle right up to my gate and set it on fire. They were fully aware of the CCTV in place, they took great pains to hide themselves.

Just a coincidence, eh?

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/10/chris-packham-vows-to-continue-activism-after-arson-attack-on-home

Alegrias1 Tue 12-Oct-21 12:20:34

He said: “On Friday morning at 12.30am, two hooded and masked men drove a vehicle right up to my gate and set it on fire. They were fully aware of the CCTV in place, they took great pains to hide themselves.

Just a coincidence, eh?

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/10/chris-packham-vows-to-continue-activism-after-arson-attack-on-home

Petera Tue 12-Oct-21 12:18:24

Kali2

Katie59

Packham is affecting the livelihood of a great many in rural areas, it’s not surprising some are going to go too far

This is just appalling- condoning criminal activity and threatening the lives of a family. Shame, shame on you.

That clearly not what she did. Understanding people's motivations is not the same as condoning them.

In fact I'd go further and say that, in many cases, refusing to try to understand them contributes to the problem.

Danma Tue 12-Oct-21 12:11:22

Where is the evidence that this was an attack on him?

There were two vehicles stolen from the same area and both were set alight less than a mile apart (I understand)
There has also previously been a vehicle arson incident within a mile of Mr Packham’s home where a fence was singed too

Too many people jumping to conclusions when even Mr Packham says he doesn’t know how it happened

Cagsy Tue 12-Oct-21 12:09:07

Indeed Jess20, and principled

Jess20 Tue 12-Oct-21 12:05:52

Brave man.