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Is this a humiliation for Glasgow? ?

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Urmstongran Thu 21-Oct-21 10:05:15

Strikes by binmen, piles of rubbish (and rats) in the streets, road-blocking protests and hotel rooms priced at £1,400 a night set to cast shadow over UN Climate Change Conference which starts on 31 October. Maybe it’s a ‘trick’ for Halloween ?

Alegrias1 Thu 21-Oct-21 12:49:15

Well here's a serious answer.

Unions know that if they make their protests at a time when the eyes of the world are on the city, they have more chance of getting what they want.

Did that really need to be explained?

grandtanteJE65 Thu 21-Oct-21 12:49:39

Aye weel, in Glasgow when things went wrong, we used to say,

"We're Clyde built, so we'll be all right"

Do tell: which cities don't have rats? And why should it embarrass the citizens of Glasgow if a major event co-incides with a bin-mens' strike?

Citizens of a democracy have a right to organize themselves in Trade Unions and to go on strike if conditions of employment become intolerable.

Marydoll Thu 21-Oct-21 12:55:06

To clarify, the bin men do not intend to go on strike until next week, neither is Glasgow overrun by rats, but I do agree there is a problem in certain areas. Part of the problem is residents not putting rubbish in bags and disposing responsibly. I'm sure you will find similar problems in other large cities in the UK.
The thread was trundling along quite pleasantly, with some good natured banter, when instead, we Glaswegians could have taken offense, then.......

As for Elegran's post, I know Elegran and am sure she didn't intentionally intend to offend anyone. How many of us have posted, without thinking and regretted it?

Finally, I am proud to be a Glaswegian, born and bred.
Wha fair meddle wi us?

Alegrias1 Thu 21-Oct-21 12:56:48

Gey few, Marydoll, gey few.

Marydoll Thu 21-Oct-21 12:57:36

Blast! Predictable text!!

Just don't dare meddle! ?

Zoejory Thu 21-Oct-21 13:09:11

Alegrias1. This is nothing to do with this thread whatsoever. But I wondered if you could help me. A restaurant. In Edinburgh. Very nice restaurant seemingly built through rock with windy passages. As in long and winding road, windy, rather than breezy. I'd love to know it's name. And I've looked. To no avail. I think I might have dreamt it. Goergous place. If you know it I'll be over the moon

As for this meeting All will be a huge success. I'm sure. smile

Alegrias1 Thu 21-Oct-21 13:12:28

I don't know ZoeJory, sorry! The Witchery, maybe? Any other people able to help?

Zoejory Thu 21-Oct-21 13:15:27

Thank you for your answer, Alegrias1! I am determined to find this place! It was the best restaurant I'd ever been in ... and I've been in rather a lot!

Zoejory Thu 21-Oct-21 13:19:01

Ooh! The Witchery looks amazing! I shall be looking into booking that.

As for Glasgow is this all not a bit like the Olympics? "They're going to be rubbish: etc etc .And they weren't! I think we quite like a bit of hand wringing from time to time .

Granniesunite Thu 21-Oct-21 13:35:34

Sorry Zoejory The only restaurant I know well
in that area The Kitchin in leith….

Elegran Thu 21-Oct-21 13:40:19

No dig at Southend. Very interesting. Humiliating Glasgow for having the occasional rodent (what city doesn't?) for having a strike of binmen (no other city has strikes when an international event is imminent to focus media attention?) for having the foresight to arrange a huge floating hotel for the expected influx of visitors (did you expect them to build a whole new suburb of luxury suites to Presidential standards?) etc, etc is perfectly acceptable. Never mind a recent murder or two - Glasgow has always been notorious for violence, after all, hasn't it, and has long been a byword south of the border for Gorbals squalor (now a thing of the past)

However, a mild joke that an English coastal city (newly designated) might be able to accommodate all those delegates, if not in the manner to which they are would like to be accustomed, brings cries of bad taste. I wonder if any cities are left that have had no murders at all recently so could be safely mentioned?

Elegran Thu 21-Oct-21 13:40:19

No dig at Southend. Very interesting. Humiliating Glasgow for having the occasional rodent (what city doesn't?) for having a strike of binmen (no other city has strikes when an international event is imminent to focus media attention?) for having the foresight to arrange a huge floating hotel for the expected influx of visitors (did you expect them to build a whole new suburb of luxury suites to Presidential standards?) etc, etc is perfectly acceptable. Never mind a recent murder or two - Glasgow has always been notorious for violence, after all, hasn't it, and has long been a byword south of the border for Gorbals squalor (now a thing of the past)

However, a mild joke that an English coastal city (newly designated) might be able to accommodate all those delegates, if not in the manner to which they are would like to be accustomed, brings cries of bad taste. I wonder if any cities are left that have had no murders at all recently so could be safely mentioned?

Elegran Thu 21-Oct-21 13:45:33

No dig at all at Southend. Very interesting. Humiliating Glasgow for having the occasional rodent (what city doesn't?) for having a strike of binmen (no other city has strikes when an international event is imminent to focus media attention?) for having the foresight to arrange a huge floating hotel for the expected influx of visitors (did you expect them to build a whole new suburb of luxury suites to Presidential standards?) etc, etc is all perfectly acceptable. Never mind a recent murder or two - Glasgow has always been notorious for violence, after all, hasn't it, and has long been a byword south of the border for Gorbals squalor (now a thing of the past)

However, a mild joke that an English coastal city might be able to accommodate all those delegates, if not in the manner to which they are would like to be accustomed, brings cries of bad taste and offending people. Which people? Does a whole cityful of inhabitants become holy when a tragedy happens there? I wonder if any cities are left that have had no murders at all recently so could be safely mentioned?

Perhaps Urmstongran's tongue was firmly in her cheek when she posted the OP - was it "prod a Glaswegian and see them rise to the bait?"

GrannyGravy13 Thu 21-Oct-21 13:46:07

Elegran I wouldn’t denigrate Glasgow as I know little to nothing about it.

Emotions are extremely raw in this part of S E Essex since Sir David was brutally murdered, not much to joke or laugh about.

(Under other circumstances I would not be so defensive about Southend)

Elegran Thu 21-Oct-21 13:47:38

Sorry that was posted three times. It didn't go for ages so I resubmitted. It still didn't go, so I added another sentence and tried again. Third time lucky, but the other two have appeared as well.

Elegran Thu 21-Oct-21 13:50:58

GrannyGravy13 Then I am sorry you felt personally injured by my (innocent) post. It wasn't meant unkindly, but as an example of the kind of place that has holiday lets. NOT a dig.

MayBeMaw Thu 21-Oct-21 13:55:11

Elegran so just an accidental if unfortunate choice of SE English coastal town then.
Fuses are being worn shorter these days , perhaps we all need to just breathe smile

lemongrove Thu 21-Oct-21 14:09:24

A very unfortunate choice I would say Maw
I think many of the comments on GN these days are too often made in anger, which reflects what’s going on in the worst of society, it’s depressing.
Glasgow has many fine attributes and I have three friends from there, none of whom would defend the city for the sake of it.All cities have their bad points as well as the good.

Callistemon Thu 21-Oct-21 14:13:48

Alegrias1

Well here's a serious answer.

Unions know that if they make their protests at a time when the eyes of the world are on the city, they have more chance of getting what they want.

Did that really need to be explained?

Yes.

No pride in their city then

Alegrias1 Thu 21-Oct-21 14:17:39

Dearie me.

I'm guessing you don't know much about Glasgow and Red Clydeside. grin

Maybe they'll send the tanks into George Square again, after all protesters are just being selfish, aren't they?

Callistemon Thu 21-Oct-21 14:22:21

My best friend was from Clydeside.
Several other friends are from Glasgow.
All emigrated to RUKand are thankful for that.
So I do know a little bit in fact.

Dearie me.
Patronising or what?
Why would I be that interested anyway - I have never been and certainly have less and less desire to go there after reading posts on Gransnet from unwelcoming Scots.

Callistemon Thu 21-Oct-21 14:23:52

I must admit the Scots have some good sayings though.
Awa' an bile yer heid comes to mind.

Alegrias1 Thu 21-Oct-21 14:24:13

Dearie me. Its a Scots thing.

Why would I be that interested anyway - I have never been and certainly have less and less desire to go there after reading posts on Gransnet from unwelcoming Scots.

Chips on shoulders at the ready, chaps.

lemongrove Thu 21-Oct-21 14:31:15

Alegrias your over feisty and sneering comments do no favours to Scots. There are definitely chips on shoulders (yours) but you seem blind to that fact. Ironic.

Granniesunite Thu 21-Oct-21 14:32:27

Can we go back to talking about Tims.?.. That was a safer subject…
So sorry to see the humour lost on here.