Greta Thunberg is a Pain in the proverbial

Who do we think has had the greatest impact on climate change awareness?

Greta with three years activity? Or Charles in 30(?) years of driving an Aston Martin powered by wine?

No, it’s not just you. I find her extremely irritating, and am trying to think how people would have reacted when we were that age. I’d have been sent to my room by very embarrassed parents.

The only other thing of course, is she being exploited by the adults in her life?

I agree, the ‘grownups’ need to be doing rather than saying. The Queen said that, and she’s obviously in a good position to make a statement like that, but not this girl.

She needs to get on with her school work!

I agree, the ‘grownups’ need to be doing rather than saying. The Queen said that, and she’s obviously in a good position to make a statement like that, but not this girl.

Is that the same Queen who flew from Windsor to Sandringham for a weekend break?

I remember Greenpeace campaigning in the 70’s.
Worrying about the environment is nothing new.

Kandinsky

I remember Greenpeace campaigning in the 70’s.
Worrying about the environment is nothing new.

So 50 years and no progress then?

Thank God for Greta.

I think she is a bit of a victim of the media - a few years ago, when she was even younger, she made an impact because she was saying how much she cared about the environment and her youth and articulacy made her stand out. But the media have sucked her in and she is too young to deal with this in a sensible way.

But to her credit, she does not pretend to be a climate expert, and I think she is right to stand up for what she believes in - but that it has all got a bit out of hand for her.

Real life challenges/experiences can be so much more educational than school.
BTW, if she lived in England, she would no longer be in school anyway, but I don't know how the education system works in Sweden.

So Greta will achieve in 3 years what Greenpeace haven’t been able to in 50 years?
Right okay.
I’m reminded of the quote. - ‘overnight success’ usually takes about 10 years.
How insulting to all the environmental activists who have worked tirelessly for over 50 years that you put your faith in one 18 year old woman.

MamaCaz

Real life challenges/experiences can be so much more educational than school.
BTW, if she lived in England, she would no longer be in school anyway, but I don't know how the education system works in Sweden.

Perhaps, as in America, tertiary educational establishments are called school too.

Does anyone else remember those brilliant xmas cards Greenpeace sold one year? They were of snowmen carrying placards that said "Snow people against global warming". I bought loads and sent them to friends and relations.

That's possible. Though I had always assumed this was the UK site?

Alegrias1

Well Calendargirl and Smileless2012 beat me too it.

But in all honesty, its not just you. Lots of people who don't really grasp the situation really don't like being shown up by a teenager.

She is annoying. I like her

As for the "no positive ideas" nonsense, try googling the Greta Thunberg Foundation.

Me too!

MamaCaz

That's possible. Though I had always assumed this was the UK site?

Some of the young people of my acquaintance are now using the term as Americans do.

Kandinsky

So Greta will achieve in 3 years what Greenpeace haven’t been able to in 50 years?
Right okay.
I’m reminded of the quote. - ‘overnight success’ usually takes about 10 years.
How insulting to all the environmental activists who have worked tirelessly for over 50 years that you put your faith in one 18 year old woman.

No, not at all. A logical fallacy on your part and the conflation of two different posts.

Oh yeah! Just remembered the caption inside those Greenpeace cards: "Have a Cool Yule" ☃️☃️
So good.

Is it just me or is she increasingly coming across as a brat having a permanent tantrum.?

Well sadly it's not just you, from some of the posts on here. But it's not me. I've nothing but admiration for this strong, brave, intelligent, articulate young woman who's inspired millions.

Baggs

MamaCaz

That's possible. Though I had always assumed this was the UK site?

Some of the young people of my acquaintance are now using the term as Americans do.

She’s 18. Could easily still be at school. I was.

I have very mixed feelings about Greta. I think the world sometimes needs people like her to shake us up to get things done. I admired her at first. But I do think it's gone to her head a bit. She is young and idealistic, and rather naive.
I don't see how she can possibly understand the complexities
involved in balancing the urgent need for action with the necessity to keep us all fed and in employment etc.
But she certainly has made us all more aware of the need for change, hasn't she.

Maggiemaybe

^Is it just me or is she increasingly coming across as a brat having a permanent tantrum.?^

Well sadly it's not just you, from some of the posts on here. But it's not me. I've nothing but admiration for this strong, brave, intelligent, articulate young woman who's inspired millions.

Me too. There have been 14 COP conferences and still governments are just talking. I hope there will be action to reduce the human impact on this planet. She has certainly raised awareness, so good on her.

DA has been crusading for climate change for a long time, as has Prince Charles and many others, before GT was a twinkle in her Father’s eye, as they say.
And have the younger generation all been out in the streets following and listening to them then lemongrove ??? No I thought not
Can’t stand Chris Packham either fairly predictable Kandinski
No wonder the worlds in the state it’s in with so much vitriol towards a young girl who is doing a great job

Grandma70s

Baggs

MamaCaz

That's possible. Though I had always assumed this was the UK site?

Some of the young people of my acquaintance are now using the term as Americans do.

She’s 18. Could easily still be at school. I was.

Unless I am mistaken, she was 18 in January. When I was at school, everyone that age left at the end of that school year, in July. No one I have ever known stayed in school beyond that age in England. .

It suits the narrative to portray her as a silly schoolgirl.

Luckygirl

I think she is a bit of a victim of the media - a few years ago, when she was even younger, she made an impact because she was saying how much she cared about the environment and her youth and articulacy made her stand out. But the media have sucked her in and she is too young to deal with this in a sensible way.

But to her credit, she does not pretend to be a climate expert, and I think she is right to stand up for what she believes in - but that it has all got a bit out of hand for her.

That’s just what I think too, it’s got out of hand for her.
In fact, I think she may well be very anxious about the whole thing.She hasn’t got anything new to say now and just rubbishing events such as COP26 and whatever good countries are trying to do in a very green way is counter productive. I can take her or leave her and think comments about her looks are out of line ( she simply looks very young and Scandinavian.)However she isn’t some sort of Saviour either and has no idea how to combat climate change in any real or meaningful way ( how could she?)
All that the UK can do is to change whatever it possibly can and use diplomacy to get others on board around the world.
The US, as a Super Power could do so very much if Biden can get things going there ( that won’t be easy either!)
If China India and Russia could be shamed/ helped/ cajoled in to change that would be wonderful.Until then the better countries must lead by example.

Unless I am mistaken, she was 18 in January. When I was at school, everyone that age left at the end of that school year, in July. No one I have ever known stayed in school beyond that age in England.

I think you may have misunderstood my comment, mamacaz, which was that Americans call universities and colleges "school" and that perhaps (i.e. possibly; I've actually no idea) this was also the case in Sweden. The usage is certainly beginning to catch on here a bit. This was in response to some other comments about school and Greta of which I can't remember the details.

Other than that general observation I haven't said anything about Greta Thunberg's schooling/education.

lemongrove

Luckygirl

I think she is a bit of a victim of the media - a few years ago, when she was even younger, she made an impact because she was saying how much she cared about the environment and her youth and articulacy made her stand out. But the media have sucked her in and she is too young to deal with this in a sensible way.

But to her credit, she does not pretend to be a climate expert, and I think she is right to stand up for what she believes in - but that it has all got a bit out of hand for her.

That’s just what I think too, it’s got out of hand for her.
In fact, I think she may well be very anxious about the whole thing.She hasn’t got anything new to say now and just rubbishing events such as COP26 and whatever good countries are trying to do in a very green way is counter productive. I can take her or leave her and think comments about her looks are out of line ( she simply looks very young and Scandinavian.)However she isn’t some sort of Saviour either and has no idea how to combat climate change in any real or meaningful way ( how could she?)
All that the UK can do is to change whatever it possibly can and use diplomacy to get others on board around the world.
The US, as a Super Power could do so very much if Biden can get things going there ( that won’t be easy either!)
If China India and Russia could be shamed/ helped/ cajoled in to change that would be wonderful.Until then the better countries must lead by example.

Good post, lucky, and I agree.

And lemon, regarding your comment about her being anxious about the whole thing, that is what I was trying to say when I said I thought she was a terrified young woman. It wasn't a criticism.