And Socrates called himself Gadfly.
Good Morning Saturday 9th May 2026
How did you vote and why today
Is it just me or is she increasingly coming across as a brat having a permanent tantrum.? She has no positive ideas, merely demands to stop doing just about everything while the media hangs on her every intemperate word? Blah blah blah…..
And Socrates called himself Gadfly.
Usual hate messages on here directed towards anyone who has the audacity to get off their backsides and campaign or protest- it draws attention to the mess previous generations have made, not the ordinary individuals but the whole systematic exploitation of the natural world , and not by the young. Pointing fingers saying they’ve got phones or leave litter is just cognitive dissonance writ large. Why demand absolute perfection from anyone when they try to bring attention to the climate emergency which is happening now? It’s not just about recycling or make do and mend, it’s reducing the use of fossil fuels , industrial farming and fishing, more sustainable industrial practices - that action has got to come at a government level.
MamaCaz
Grandma70s
Baggs
MamaCaz
That's possible. Though I had always assumed this was the UK site?
Some of the young people of my acquaintance are now using the term as Americans do.
She’s 18. Could easily still be at school. I was.
Unless I am mistaken, she was 18 in January. When I was at school, everyone that age left at the end of that school year, in July. No one I have ever known stayed in school beyond that age in England. .
It was quite common when I was at school (1950s) to have three years in the sixth form. It gave you a chance to do the Oxford entrance, or just improve your A-level results in order to get into a good university. Perhaps it is different now, or people go on to ‘college’ to improve their results..
OK, Baggs. I'm sorry for any misunderstanding.
What you say about the American 'school' terminology starting to be used here is interesting. I have to admit that's a new one on me. I was aware the US usage, but not its use here. I'll be prepared now if my dc or dgc come out with that terminology in the future 
Shes bloody irritating
MamaCaz, 
it is she who is portraying herself as a silly schoolgirl!
lemsip
it is she who is portraying herself as a silly schoolgirl!
No, she's really not.
That girl Greta Thunberg has risked her health and her popularity and spent her young energy to gee up half dead old cadavers into doing something worthy.,
When I was just sixteen I responded to an overtly racist letter that had been published in the Manchester Evening News. My letter, including my name and address, was also published and I subsequently received a torrent of abuse that included death threats. I was living with my grandparents at the time and for a while we were afraid their home, an upstairs flat, would get firebombed (just one of the threats).
The furore eventually died down, and although I had a few scares in the street I didn’t actually get harmed. Now, I’m no Greta or Malala, but the experience did give me a smidgen of an insight into the costs involved in being an activist.
I hugely admire Greta for her passion and her commitment and for ‘waking up’ so many who were either unaware, or unwilling to take climate change seriously. I cannot write as eloquently as the authors of this article, so I’ll leave it with you to read or not.
time.com/person-of-the-year-2019-greta-thunberg/
We need more young people like Greta.
Smiles won’t get the promises the world needs. I don’t think the young of today have much to look forward to when you see the people in power not doing anything really positive to preserve the planet, instead of their jobs.
Agreements are made in front of everyone but they are torn up behind the scenes.
She is angry because she can see the planet’s future.
If you don’t get Greta, you don’t get it at all. But carry on scrubbing your yoghurt pots, that’ll fix the problem.
vegansrock
Usual hate messages on here directed towards anyone who has the audacity to get off their backsides and campaign or protest- it draws attention to the mess previous generations have made, not the ordinary individuals but the whole systematic exploitation of the natural world , and not by the young. Pointing fingers saying they’ve got phones or leave litter is just cognitive dissonance writ large. Why demand absolute perfection from anyone when they try to bring attention to the climate emergency which is happening now? It’s not just about recycling or make do and mend, it’s reducing the use of fossil fuels , industrial farming and fishing, more sustainable industrial practices - that action has got to come at a government level.
Agree whole heartedly
People really struggle with systematic issues and tend to take them rather a personal insults
All the Greta lovers shouldn’t even be online as laptops / iPhones use an awful lot of energy.
If you really cared about the environment you wouldn’t have these devices - or if you have them they’d be used for necessity/ emergencies only - not just idle entertainment/ social media use.
But then hypocrisy is everywhere.
Why do some of you have to call any criticism a “hate message” if they don’t happen to agree entirely with you?
Kandinsky
All the Greta lovers shouldn’t even be online as laptops / iPhones use an awful lot of energy.
If you really cared about the environment you wouldn’t have these devices - or if you have them they’d be used for necessity/ emergencies only - not just idle entertainment/ social media use.
But then hypocrisy is everywhere.
Yay! More false equivalencies!
How about you find a real argument instead of just insulting a) an 18 year old woman, and b) anyone who doesn’t do so?
How about you turn your phone off & save energy?
This is getting silly. You are supposed to be mature women. Comments are becoming childish insults.
Also we're not the ones who waste food! My grandkids are soon daddy. It drives me to distraction their likes and dislikes. I just tell them eat or go hungry.
There's lots of ways to save energy....
I have a light on and I used the cooker today - should I say three Hail Marys and ask for forgiveness?
But then I've been vegetarian for 30 years and I have no children....
This save the planet thing is quite complicated, isn't it?
Kandinsky
All the Greta lovers shouldn’t even be online as laptops / iPhones use an awful lot of energy.
If you really cared about the environment you wouldn’t have these devices - or if you have them they’d be used for necessity/ emergencies only - not just idle entertainment/ social media use.
But then hypocrisy is everywhere.
What a ridiculous post!
OP You set the tone by calling her a brat, and others followed. Would you speak to someone directly to their face in such a manner? Maybe not what you intended but It comes across as bullying not criticism.
Kandinsky
I get what your saying, but, think what companies would get away with if we didn’t have this wonderful invention to keep a track on them.
tidyskatemum
This is getting silly. You are supposed to be mature women. Comments are becoming childish insults.
Says the woman who started a thread just to insult a younger woman.
“A brat having a permanent tantrum”.
You can hardly be surprised that people would find that distasteful?
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