Apologies, Meghan again!

I'm genuinely interested to know why people care so much about what this couple do and say.

Not a day goes by without the media throwing up yet another article about them. There was one the other day which basically just told us about a dress she was wearing - and it resulted in all the usual bile-fuelled comments about her.

I don't understand the obsession with M&H - their actions, activities, what they say... does it really impact people's lives to any extent? I've seen many commenters say that they wish they'd "just disappear" or that they are "fed-up reading about them", yet they devour the column inches. As long as we continue to do this, the media will continue to publish endless articles about them... they make good copy.

We have a choice - we could just stop consuming all the - sometimes trivial - stuff that the media churns out.

trisher

tickingbird

I should think TM will manage just fine if H & M fade into the background. However H & M would struggle without Daddy’s money and trading off their Royal connections.

TM spent a lottery win of $750,000, filed for bancruptcy and was living on the breadline in Mexico when H&M married. He made money from photos before the wedding. He has no other income. So how would he manage?

I don't usually comment on these threads but how sad for TM that his independently wealthy daughter would leave him living on the breadline, after he had paid for her exclusive private schooling. I expect there are faults on both sides but this does appear to be extremely uncaring.

Meghan is a cash cow for her family.

Ok Dickens I hold my hands up to being sort of interested, as I am in many many things, particularly people. But I am not obsessed, neither do I devour the papers for news about H & M. For example it just happened to be a discussion on GN this morning alongside my making carrot soup, walking the dogs in the woods, visiting the post office and later teaching French for an hour and going out with the DGC and watching Strictly.
In fact most of the posters on this thread seem to me to have a wide knowledge of topics as they crop up on all sorts of informative and serious threads too. Maybe the M & H stuff is just light relief, I don't know.

I don’t buy magazines and the only newspapers I read are the local rag and The Times so I don’t read much about H and M. Most of it is on GN! My only interest in them arises from my deep disappointment about Harry’s behaviour since his marriage and his apparent disrespect for his country and the Royal Family.

Josianne

Ok Dickens I hold my hands up to being sort of interested, as I am in many many things, particularly people. But I am not obsessed, neither do I devour the papers for news about H & M. For example it just happened to be a discussion on GN this morning alongside my making carrot soup, walking the dogs in the woods, visiting the post office and later teaching French for an hour and going out with the DGC and watching Strictly.
In fact most of the posters on this thread seem to me to have a wide knowledge of topics as they crop up on all sorts of informative and serious threads too. Maybe the M & H stuff is just light relief, I don't know.

I'm not specifically referring to gransnet commenters - which I should have specified.

I too am guilty - against better judgement - of reading far too many articles across the whole media spectrum... and that is basically my reference area - all the social media platforms like Facebook, etc.

I feel that the OP is simply having another stir of the M&H pot. Her choice - and I have commented when I could have remained silent.

I'm just wondering out loud why people appear to be so bothered by this couple. You have to admit, they are never out of the news, and that's because we (not you specifically) appear to be obsessed with her - and Harry.

I find the whole saga fascinating.
If ever there was a couple hellbent on their own destruction.........

I cannot believe I forgot will do Megan any favours. She is suing the Daily Mail who in their defense could use her claim to have forgotten what is a vital part in her case against them.

Thanks Dickens. I think that's how it works on GN. We all glean bits and pieces from various sources and then put it in the melting pot on here to discuss, but not obsessively.
Same for discussions on Boris, Brexit or covid which admittedly are more relevant than this silly couple. But there you go.

I think Harry retains his titles because of the Queen's love for him.
I'm not sure about Prince Charles but I can't see Prince William continuing to be so accommodating to his brother in years to come.

Like it or not, it's William and Catherine who have the global status and always will have.
Harry and Meghan could have been there, centre stage in partnership with them, but I can't see it happening now.

I'm Public Enemy Number one when it comes to Meghan threads but this is what I think .

There is a school of thought that idolises the RF and cannot abide anyone who does anything that might be seen as upsetting the Queen, William, or anybody else. Royal princes are meant to do their duty and put the country first. So when royal princes decide to do something else, and live a life that isn't strictly within the boundaries of what is expected, the switch from former soldier we can all be proud of to henpecked, sad little man under his wife's thumb is quick and one-directional.

I find it all very distasteful. They may be behaving oddly, they may be bending the truth to suit themselves, but the unalloyed criticism masquerading as concern for some of the parties involved is very unpleasant.

I read this week that something like 70% of the negative social media comments about the pair come from 85 (?) accounts. Its a media circus.

Yes, at that wedding it was all so full of promise, but unfortunately it would appear that MM never intended to become a supportive member of the RF who I think were well and truly hoodwinked! Weren't we all? Very sad and deeply disappointing. Meghan could call herself Princess Henry, as does Princess Michael, but never Princess Meghan without the Queens permission. Diana was known as as Lady Diana pre her marriage which was morphed into Princess Diana by the press afterwards. The Queen did allow Princess Marina Duchess of Kent to use her christian name instead of her husbands after the present Duke of Kent married in 1961.

As someone said upthread it is light relief news, after all the sombre stuff, but I'm amazed at the number of front pages and magazine covers they fill. I do feel a bit sorry for Harry though.

You may think that, Alegrias

What I perceive is that Meghan met Harry and they married very quickly; nothing wrong with that but it's a big undertaking to marry into the family of our Head of State and all that entails. After the mistakes with Diana, Meghan was given a good insight and training into what would be expected of her and she appeared to take to it with great enthusiasm. She and Harry undertook royal duties, took on roles from older family members. However, it wasn't long before it began to pall especially as Harry was 'The Spare'.

He wanted out to lead a quiet life out of the glare of the paparazzi, she offered him an alternative lifestyle.
Fair enough but they just can't seem to stay out of the limelight, they crave publicity but on their own terms and d9nt mind trashing the reputations of family members.

Add to that the fact that she is estranged from all her family except her mother and now Harry is estranged from some of his family and seems to have changed to become a mere mouthpiece of his wife, are you surprised at the criticism?

This latest episode gives credence to the thought that everything she has said or done has been carefully calculated.

Cynical? Moi? Not usually.

Very well said Calistemon.

It’s been said on here before, but I think Meghan has always had a very clear idea of how she wanted her life to pan out. I’ve just finished reading ‘Meghan, A Hollywood Princess’, written by Andrew Morton, the book finishes just before the wedding.

She seems to have been a very bright, intelligent, focused individual all her life, well educated and adored by her divorced parents, especially her dad. Set out to be an actress and after a tough few years, got her big break in ‘Suits’.

What comes across is how she seems to choose friends and lovers who can help her in her aims for life. They can just as quickly be dropped when no longer useful.

Life in the Royal Family was not ‘panning out’ how she thought it would, hence the changes in her and her husband’s life.

How it will all end, who knows. Was Harry really the love of her life, or just another means to an end?

Why does the cynical me say ‘the latter’?

Just a couple of points for the sake of accuracy.

Titles such as Duke and Duchess can only be removed by Statute of Parliament and then the Monarchs consent.

Princess Marina was Princess Marina because she was a Princess in her own right, through her own family, otherwise she would have taken her husbands name, as Princess Michael has done.

Yes, I do think that Calistemon. And everything you say might well be true.

But you only think it's important or interesting, (I'm guessing, I know!) because you think stories about an aristocrat with a high profile granny, and his wife, are important and interesting.

Sorry, but I don't.

Well, I am interested in our Head of State, yes.
I am interested in certain charities which may have invited a member of the RF to be a patron.

And I know the difference between royal and aristocratic.

If you didn’t find this subject interesting Aleg then you really wouldn't waste your time with so many posts on it.?
Come on.....it’s fascinating innit?

And I think that someone taking on a prestige job, knowing what it entails, doing the training and then leaving and publicly trashing others who are working for the firm is what cold be termed flaky.

could

eazybee

I find the whole saga fascinating.
If ever there was a couple hellbent on their own destruction.........

Yes, it’s like a Greek Tragedy.

lemongrove

If you didn’t find this subject interesting Aleg then you really wouldn't waste your time with so many posts on it.?
Come on.....it’s fascinating innit?

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Like a moth to the flame