Apologies, Meghan again!

Or maybe her in laws, seeing how stressed and down she was becoming, suggested she visit her father to have a heart to heart for her own benefit? We don't know.
What I do know, is that you Jane don't appear regularly on my TV or newsfeeds criticising your father's parenting, complaining he doesn't give you money now as an adult to support your lifestyle or that your inlaws' family is actually the one you never had. Even though that new found family was dumped pretty swiftly anyway.

I don't know Annie, it was suggested in some of the news sources I have read today.

How would Megan visiting her father save her laws face ?

I'm estranged from my Father who lives in South East Asia. If my in laws suggested I get on a plane to smooth things over with him to save their face, I would be as impressed as Meghan is to be quite honest.

They've set the agenda

That's about 90% conjecture, though, isn't it?

Alegrias 14.36 t
I think Meghan is intelligent, beautiful, determined and could be an asset to whatever cause she aligns herself to.
Unfortunately, she is also calculating, egotistical, hypocritical and cruel in her drive to the top (as she sees it). And the only cause she truly believes in, is herself.

Harry has spent his life feeling he is second best.
So he doesnt find it odd to play a supporting role in his marriage, rather than be the main focus of attention ( as his father thought he should be when he was eclipsed by D).
So it's easy to see why Harry would be at ease with this scenario.

They feel they have a shot at being top dog in the US.
Fair enough.

What is very difficult to swallow is the method they use to get there.

I've said many times they have their eyes on the Presidency.
Everything they do is sacrificed to this aim.

My feelings about them have nothing to do with 'protecting' the image of the RF. Or discrediting them on the basis of whatever reasons.
My oponions are based on observations of their behaviour.

Because that's not her name, maybe?

As you well know.

The family were not ordained by God or man.

This couple do not ‘bend the truth’, they lie .

They were married by the Arch Bishop privately in their garden three days before they exchanged vows at the alter.

They left the country because they wanted private lives .

They didn’t contribute to the book ‘Finding Freedom’ .

He feared for his wife’s life because his mother died because she was with an Egyptian, no matter she was two years with a
man from Pakistan.

So many lies.

The Duchess of Kent chose a private life because of ill health so
chose to be called Katharine Kent. They have clung to and used
their titles to make money, a title given to them because they were part of a family who they constantly criticise.

She could have had her book published as Megan Sussex but not she .

So why are you on the Royal threads, then, if they are of no interest to you, Alegrias? Serious question.

Cos its a free country and I can comment on anything I see fit?

Even though we think its still OK to operate under a historically obsolete constitutional model?

CraftyGranny

I read somewhere that Meghan's half Brother said that Harry stopped smiling when he married her!

That's odd then as I've just google imaged Meghan and Harry and he has the hugest smile in almost every one of them.

If the energy expended on conversation about these two young people could be harnessed COP26 needn't have happened.

But you only think it's important or interesting, (I'm guessing, I know!) because you think stories about an aristocrat with a high profile granny, and his wife, are important and interesting.

So why are you on the Royal threads, then, if they are of no interest to you, Alegrias? Serious question.
I don't think I'm the only one to be confused by that.

If I'm not at all interested in a subject I tend to skip past

Calistemon

^They're all just posh types who have no impact on my life whatsoever.^

Well, they do have some impact on your life Alegerias because without them, we'd have to have yet another bloody expensive election every four years with utterly pointless, lying campaigning, a president who may want a new and expensive presidential palace etc etc, then the next First Woman or First Man will want it all refurbished again etc.
They'll all be gossips about in the media.

plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

#Brenda

As opposed to another bloody expensive family that we all have to pay for that think they are ordained by God and that we all have to defer to?

Funnily enough I've never thought that one of the criticisms for not having democracy is that it would cost money.

Bluebellwould

You can chat about your cats and hobbies, other posters do.
One of my grand-cats got duffed up last night, poor thing, he is such a wuss.

But you only think it's important or interesting, (I'm guessing, I know!) because you think stories about an aristocrat with a high profile granny, and his wife, are important and interesting.

Yeah, you're guessing, Alegrias

I'm just happy with the status quo.

Now, where did I put my 1952 scrapbook ....

They're all just posh types who have no impact on my life whatsoever.

Well, they do have some impact on your life Alegerias because without them, we'd have to have yet another bloody expensive election every four years with utterly pointless, lying campaigning, a president who may want a new and expensive presidential palace etc etc, then the next First Woman or First Man will want it all refurbished again etc.
They'll all be gossips about in the media.

plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

#Brenda

I read somewhere that Meghan's half Brother said that Harry stopped smiling when he married her!

^ But decide you don't like them and get out and you will be hounded and criticised forever more.^

Not "hounded and criticised for getting out" but criticised for the sneaky way in which they did it, for the way they have treated people, and for the lies and hypocrisy.

Funny isn't it the RF can fix and dodge taxes. Be linked with paedophiles. Make racist comments. and generally behave like self aggrandising feudal lords and get away with it. But decide you don't like them and get out and you will be hounded and criticised forever more.

As I see it, there should not be any shame or embarrassment attached to wanting to talk about Meghan and Harry on here. If an OP generates in excess of 100 posts on a thread then there is obviously a certain amount of not necessarily obsessive interest. Like in a Greek tragedy, or even in a Shakespearean tragedy, these ancient family themes are timeless and universal, but strangely enough people never tire of analysing them, and why not? In fact I get the impression that some people might even be waiting for the next act to be revealed, because for sure it isn't over yet!

Peasblossom ???

The royal family has always been like a Greek tragedy, this is just another one of its chapters, I sort of think that may be its purpose.

The same for me as Bluebellwould

I don't idolise the RF Alegrias in fact I don't consider myself to be a royalist but I do respect the Queen for her life time of service.

I don't like liars and hypocrites who ever they are. I don't like people spreading malicious false allegations and I don't like people whose mantra appears to be 'do as I say and not as I do'.

Yes, you are absolutely right, Lemongrove. It is like a Greek tragedy: hubris, tempting the gods, fate, all depicted within the framework of the family. Look at the Plantagenets, or the House of Hanover for father/son/sibling conflict.
Royalty and aristocracy are fascinating simply because their lives are better documented than ours and the results of their actions used to influence nationwide events.
Now they fuel the media.

Nothing to do with deference, although the Queen has earned respect because of how she has lived her life, not who she is.