Apologies, Meghan again!

Giving interviews criticising his daughter seems to be his main income source now. You do wonder how he would manage if they just faded into the background.

Fat chance of that ever happening!

Why do we chat about M and H? I chat about them because I live on my own and through circumstances have no friends left. I haven’t been out the house since May and apart from the tv I have little social interaction. The chats about them are one of the things that we all, to different levels, know about. I could post on here about my cats or my hobbies but no one else knows them. I don’t want to chat about politics or health or the weather, so love them or loathe them they are a common thread.
I think they are fair game to comment on as they have put themselves out there. They have appointed themselves as saviours of the world and haven’t kept themselves private as they stated. There is very little discussion of William and Catherine, possibly due to the fact that they are not constantly lecturing us and then doing the opposite.

Meghan has had to be manipulative and calculating to get where she is. Being a subservient part of the RF did not grab her. She grabbed Harry and ran. So long as he goes along with her their marriage is probably fine. Unfortunately they have had to tell untruths to keep in the limelight and make money, lots of it by all accounts. Meghan has climbed the slippery pole but it’s not called slippery for nothing.

She cannot be charged with perjury as she did not tell lies to the judge. We all form our own conclusions from the I forgot. The Mail are fighting an Appeal case so there may be more to come. Better she hadn’t persued the Mail. The edifice of lies is collapsing around her. Oprey has gone very quiet.

In fact, the cousin who fleeced everyone in the family of £20 and thereby ended up with a very tidy sum is still a hot topic of conversation, 30 years later?

they’re

common and illiterate apparently ?

Is it because their royal?

I have to say that in the village I grew up in any family saga like this would have been talked about for years.

And we were all totally common ?

They are all posh types who have no impact on any of our lives, but at the end of the day, people do find them interesting. It doesn’t do any harm for people to discuss any of them on Gransnet. When all is said and done, the royals are regularly in the news, whether it’s newspapers or television news. In that sense, it’s difficult to get away from what they’re up to, unless you avoid all news outlets forever.

What I find it fascinating is why so many people find it fascinating....

And I know the difference between royal and aristocratic.

I don't. They're all just posh types who have no impact on my life whatsoever.

I feel sorry for the two children because they know none of their two families except Doria.

If TM is able to make a bit of money from giving an interview, fair enough. Harry and Meghan are making money from lots of things, in particular Netflix and Spotify. Why is it wrong for TM to make a bit of money?

I suppose if I say cheerio, I have better things to do I'll be castigated ?

Off to see my own birthday Princess

lemongrove

If you didn’t find this subject interesting Aleg then you really wouldn't waste your time with so many posts on it.?
Come on.....it’s fascinating innit?

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Like a moth to the flame

eazybee

I find the whole saga fascinating.
If ever there was a couple hellbent on their own destruction.........

Yes, it’s like a Greek Tragedy.

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And I think that someone taking on a prestige job, knowing what it entails, doing the training and then leaving and publicly trashing others who are working for the firm is what cold be termed flaky.

If you didn’t find this subject interesting Aleg then you really wouldn't waste your time with so many posts on it.?
Come on.....it’s fascinating innit?

Well, I am interested in our Head of State, yes.
I am interested in certain charities which may have invited a member of the RF to be a patron.

And I know the difference between royal and aristocratic.

Yes, I do think that Calistemon. And everything you say might well be true.

But you only think it's important or interesting, (I'm guessing, I know!) because you think stories about an aristocrat with a high profile granny, and his wife, are important and interesting.

Sorry, but I don't.

Just a couple of points for the sake of accuracy.

Titles such as Duke and Duchess can only be removed by Statute of Parliament and then the Monarchs consent.

Princess Marina was Princess Marina because she was a Princess in her own right, through her own family, otherwise she would have taken her husbands name, as Princess Michael has done.

Why does the cynical me say ‘the latter’?

It’s been said on here before, but I think Meghan has always had a very clear idea of how she wanted her life to pan out. I’ve just finished reading ‘Meghan, A Hollywood Princess’, written by Andrew Morton, the book finishes just before the wedding.

She seems to have been a very bright, intelligent, focused individual all her life, well educated and adored by her divorced parents, especially her dad. Set out to be an actress and after a tough few years, got her big break in ‘Suits’.

What comes across is how she seems to choose friends and lovers who can help her in her aims for life. They can just as quickly be dropped when no longer useful.

Life in the Royal Family was not ‘panning out’ how she thought it would, hence the changes in her and her husband’s life.

How it will all end, who knows. Was Harry really the love of her life, or just another means to an end?

Very well said Calistemon.

You may think that, Alegrias

What I perceive is that Meghan met Harry and they married very quickly; nothing wrong with that but it's a big undertaking to marry into the family of our Head of State and all that entails. After the mistakes with Diana, Meghan was given a good insight and training into what would be expected of her and she appeared to take to it with great enthusiasm. She and Harry undertook royal duties, took on roles from older family members. However, it wasn't long before it began to pall especially as Harry was 'The Spare'.

He wanted out to lead a quiet life out of the glare of the paparazzi, she offered him an alternative lifestyle.
Fair enough but they just can't seem to stay out of the limelight, they crave publicity but on their own terms and d9nt mind trashing the reputations of family members.

Add to that the fact that she is estranged from all her family except her mother and now Harry is estranged from some of his family and seems to have changed to become a mere mouthpiece of his wife, are you surprised at the criticism?

This latest episode gives credence to the thought that everything she has said or done has been carefully calculated.

Cynical? Moi? Not usually.

As someone said upthread it is light relief news, after all the sombre stuff, but I'm amazed at the number of front pages and magazine covers they fill. I do feel a bit sorry for Harry though.

Yes, at that wedding it was all so full of promise, but unfortunately it would appear that MM never intended to become a supportive member of the RF who I think were well and truly hoodwinked! Weren't we all? Very sad and deeply disappointing. Meghan could call herself Princess Henry, as does Princess Michael, but never Princess Meghan without the Queens permission. Diana was known as as Lady Diana pre her marriage which was morphed into Princess Diana by the press afterwards. The Queen did allow Princess Marina Duchess of Kent to use her christian name instead of her husbands after the present Duke of Kent married in 1961.

I'm Public Enemy Number one when it comes to Meghan threads but this is what I think .

There is a school of thought that idolises the RF and cannot abide anyone who does anything that might be seen as upsetting the Queen, William, or anybody else. Royal princes are meant to do their duty and put the country first. So when royal princes decide to do something else, and live a life that isn't strictly within the boundaries of what is expected, the switch from former soldier we can all be proud of to henpecked, sad little man under his wife's thumb is quick and one-directional.

I find it all very distasteful. They may be behaving oddly, they may be bending the truth to suit themselves, but the unalloyed criticism masquerading as concern for some of the parties involved is very unpleasant.

I read this week that something like 70% of the negative social media comments about the pair come from 85 (?) accounts. Its a media circus.