UK ‘dangerously close to elected dictatorship’ under Boris Johnson, Ken Clarke warns

MaizieD

Deedaa

silverlining48 You have to wonder what sort of catastrophe will actually make them dump him!

I think that the 'catastrophe' for Johnson could be in progress; entirely of his own making...

sitting on hands (but I think it is going to be swift!)

Jabberwok- stop being truly daft (nought to do with GCSE's and A'Levels, or Degrees). Here is a good German word 'Vernunft' - no need for any of the above!

His downfall will be hitting people in the pocket. Hoist by the Brexit petard.
c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1103886409?-850:14274

I think certain people are piling in on you Lemon in order to out gun you! I totally agree with your eminently sensible posts,but then I'm almost certainly one of those ignorant voters that are clearly so despised by the intellectual left. Its the lack of any degree that's the give away. 5 GCE's, (no maths) and one A Level just doesn't cut it! Shouldn't really be allowed to vote, but there it is!

Deedaa

silverlining48 You have to wonder what sort of catastrophe will actually make them dump him!

I think that the 'catastrophe' for Johnson could be in progress; entirely of his own making...

Just as a matter of interest, here is the article we 'discussed a few weeks ago if people want to read it. Freedland gives evidence for his assertions.

As I recall, no-one actually attempted to make an evidence based rebuttal of the article. Just rubbished it in similar fashion to this current thread.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/01/boris-johnson-rigging-the-system-power-courts-protest-elections

silverlining48 You have to wonder what sort of catastrophe will actually make them dump him!

Just to echo Lemongrove's sentiments.
I actually like Ken Clarke but rarely agree with his views; sensible he is not.

Indeed. A lot ...

lemongrove

Westendgirl
He was voted for by Conservative members /as Leader,not by all those who vote Conservative, and was voted for in the GE only to foil Corbyn getting in and to proceed with the Brexit process.
Not because anyone thought he would be a fabulous PM.

How silly of them. Maybe they should have thought a bit harder!

Barmeyoldbat

Johnson will not be pm at the next election, they will want someone who is popular and can win. I have lived in two countries which was ruled by either the military or a dictator and our country is truly heading the way of a dictatorship government. He, Johnson, is a hateful self serving xxxxx. Anything said by Lemongrove I tend to ignore.

? your last sentence.

Johnson will not be pm at the next election, they will want someone who is popular and can win. I have lived in two countries which was ruled by either the military or a dictator and our country is truly heading the way of a dictatorship government. He, Johnson, is a hateful self serving xxxxx. Anything said by Lemongrove I tend to ignore.

Look at how subtle regression has played out in Hungary

Ignorant people on all political sides and classes, agreed.

Visgirl. When will they dump him ? Now would be good, it surely can’t get much worse.

lemongrove

grannyrebel7

Whatever Johnson does stupid people will still vote for him and he knows it. They think aw Boris, I like Boris, he's funny with his messy hair and untidy style of dress - let's vote for him. They have no idea that he's only concerned with the elite. It's ignorant working class people, who should know better, that have put him where he is today. And just take a look at the mess we're in! It beggars belief!

‘Ignorant working class people’ !
Oh dear.

Agreed lemongrove. totally out of order.

There are really ignorant people from all walks of life, tragically. Tories did elect him, for sure.

Depressing that should be

Google “erosion of democracy in U.K.” and article after article after article is listed. It makes extraordinary depressive reading.

grannyrebel7

Whatever Johnson does stupid people will still vote for him and he knows it. They think aw Boris, I like Boris, he's funny with his messy hair and untidy style of dress - let's vote for him. They have no idea that he's only concerned with the elite. It's ignorant working class people, who should know better, that have put him where he is today. And just take a look at the mess we're in! It beggars belief!

‘Ignorant working class people’ !
Oh dear.

Ken Clarke not my cup of tea comes across as bitter man who didn't get the Top job.
The Tories will dump Boris if necessary no worries.

No comments on the erosion of democracy then? Anybody? No?

Ken Clarke instigateed wage freezes for the nurses back in the 1980's if I remember correctly.
He is just another Thatcherite Tory who began the destruction of the NHS.

Ken Clarke was the chancellor who instigated raising the state pension age in 1993.

Whatever Johnson does stupid people will still vote for him and he knows it. They think aw Boris, I like Boris, he's funny with his messy hair and untidy style of dress - let's vote for him. They have no idea that he's only concerned with the elite. It's ignorant working class people, who should know better, that have put him where he is today. And just take a look at the mess we're in! It beggars belief!

I know Urms but people always like a bit of fresh red meat to pick over, so I obliged.?

Anybody from the right hand side of the room actually got any comments on the erosion of democracy? Perhaps you have examples of how this isn't happening and how we are completely missing the point? You know, like a proper discussion?

Or shall we just be sticking with the personal insults and derogatory comments?