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When people tell you its bad but they have not changed their mind ....

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Kali2 Sun 21-Nov-21 11:04:34

... and don't make any sense whatsover?!?

youtu.be/DcenmoIbePk

So the locals won't get out of bed, she doesn't mind the Europeans who work so hard and are often over qualified- so WHAT !!!

M0nica Sun 21-Nov-21 15:10:18

Let me argue as Devil's Advocate here. The discussion on youtube is about one effect of brexit downside only. If the lady who would still vote Brexit was entirely happy about everything else to do with Brexit, except this one effect, why should she junk everything she sees as good just because one aspect is bad? Nothing is perfect.

I do not agree with her but I can see where she is coming from and why it seems a completely rational decision.

Do not let your own strongly held views come between you and understanding your opponents.

Kali2 Sun 21-Nov-21 15:26:16

The point however is not about Brexit as such- but the logic of saying the locals don't want to get out of bed to do the jobs, that she doesn't mind the Europeans ...

kittylester Sun 21-Nov-21 15:39:37

Brexit has happened, kali!

M0nica Sun 21-Nov-21 16:14:28

Brexit did not mean a mass exodus of Europeans (Eastern Europeans), although more went than expected. It is clear that the immigrants, here and staying have a better work ethic than the local British and she woulld rather employ those.

Kali2 Sun 21-Nov-21 16:44:30

Yes, kitty- this is NOT the point of this thread. It is about the logic, or lack of, displayed.

Yes, Monica, indeed - so where is the logic?

Jaxjacky Sun 21-Nov-21 16:44:46

This interview was 4 years ago, their website address shows temporarily closed and no activity on their Facebook page for four years either. Maybe they regret that interview, it would be interesting to hear what the two ladies would say now.

Katie59 Sun 21-Nov-21 16:47:23

I could never work out why migrants would travel thousands of miles to do work that the local unemployed would not cross the road for.

MerylStreep Sun 21-Nov-21 16:59:32

Katie59
I had been living in Bulgaria for 3 years before they joined the EU. You ask why would they travel thousands of miles, etc.?
For a better life and opportunities. Generally speaking they will do any work as long as you pay them.
It’s a completely different work ethic.

Kali2 Sun 21-Nov-21 17:09:30

It is indeed MeryStreep- so we should be grateful and welcome them, no?

Calistemon Sun 21-Nov-21 17:13:32

MerylStreep

Katie59
I had been living in Bulgaria for 3 years before they joined the EU. You ask why would they travel thousands of miles, etc.?
For a better life and opportunities. Generally speaking they will do any work as long as you pay them.
It’s a completely different work ethic.

I think it is the same in many countries.

Kali2 Sun 21-Nov-21 17:44:35

How can 'locals' complain that those horrible Europeans are taking their job- and then point blank refuse any of those jobs? Something just does not tally here!

MayBeMaw Sun 21-Nov-21 18:04:58

Kali2

The point however is not about Brexit as such- but the logic of saying the locals don't want to get out of bed to do the jobs, that she doesn't mind the Europeans ...

Oh come on, it’s always about Brexit!

FarNorth Sun 21-Nov-21 18:06:02

The lazy locals will be habitual moaners.

MerylStreep Sun 21-Nov-21 18:38:35

Kali2
I’m not going to feed your need to know what British people feel about Eastern European workers.

Dinahmo Sun 21-Nov-21 19:14:07

Jaxjacky

This interview was 4 years ago, their website address shows temporarily closed and no activity on their Facebook page for four years either. Maybe they regret that interview, it would be interesting to hear what the two ladies would say now.

you beat me to it. I'm surprised nobody noticed the date.

MerylStreep Sun 21-Nov-21 19:18:16

It just goes to show how far people will search to find something to try and prove their point.

Katie59 Sun 21-Nov-21 19:19:09

Before lockdown there were a large number of mainly Polish migrant worker in this area, around half were laid off rather than furloughed, they went home and just havn’t returned. So every business is short staffed, everyone is doing overtime and extra shifts to keep going and the strain is showing.
There is virtually no unemployment in this area, anyone who wants a job just has to turn up regularly, hopefully more migrants will return next spring and we can get back to normality.

Calistemon Sun 21-Nov-21 20:11:50

MerylStreep

Kali2
I’m not going to feed your need to know what British people feel about Eastern European workers.

I'm related to some of them
???

Calistemon Sun 21-Nov-21 20:12:32

Actually, not any who came to the UK, I should add. ?

MerylStreep Sun 21-Nov-21 20:22:43

On the subject of Eastern European workers going home when covid struck I can only speak of what I heard from a restaurant that I use where the staff came back.
They wanted to be with their family in their homeland where they could understand what was going on.
Yes, they all speak very good English but it’s not the same as listening to vital information in your own tongue.

Chewbacca Sun 21-Nov-21 21:19:55

It just goes to show how far people will search to find something to try and prove their point

If you're desperate, quite a long way apparently! wink

MayBeMaw Sun 21-Nov-21 23:01:25

Somewhere around the bottom of the barrel?

M0nica Mon 22-Nov-21 08:04:12

If the clip is 4 years old, it was recorded just after the referendum, when we were still full members of the EU and all that has happened since (including COVID) was unforcastable.

I am afraid this thread is pointless. It proves nothing. For all we know the lady concerned has changed her mind by now.

MerylStreep Mon 22-Nov-21 08:31:14

Drum roll ? And the best answer goes to ………………….
MayBeMaw, yeh ????.