People blocking Lifeboat Stations.

bear1

Frence maritime law is broken by the french every time one of these migrants over crowded un sea worthy boats is launched but no one blames the french for breaking their own laws or not stopping the boats before they reach british waters which they should be doing then maybe we would have less coming here

That's not true.

You don't get to say a law is being broken just because you don't like what other people are doing. That's not how it works. Sheesh.

Maybe it's me, I am not usually given to being negative and depressed. I am anxious about the new covid variant, but I feel as if every item on todays list here is depressing and negative.

Frence maritime law is broken by the french every time one of these migrants over crowded un sea worthy boats is launched but no one blames the french for breaking their own laws or not stopping the boats before they reach british waters which they should be doing then maybe we would have less coming here

Alegrias1

^And how will the over-stretched NHS cope with thousands of extra citizens?^

Maybe by employing them to fill the open posts?

Honestly, its getting Kafkaesque on here...

I understand that the NHS has some 98,000 unfilled posts. It would take a lot of refugees to fill them. More than we get at present...

Yes, I know this is rhetoric rather than a practical suggestion, but there are many highly qualified people coming in on those flimsy boats.

(To complicate this narrative of evil people smugglers/traffickers, I have read that some refugee families club together to buy their boats. No evil gangs involved...)

Have a look at the link I gave previously www.bognorregisbeach.co.uk/live-shipping-map-english-channel Click on the minus - sign to zoom out and see more of the Channel and the waters around the UK,. It is like Piccadilly Circus for shipping of all sizes and nationalities. Imagine the loss of life that could happen if the RNLI didn't turn out without asking who it is in danger

And how will the over-stretched NHS cope with thousands of extra citizens?

Maybe by employing them to fill the open posts?

Honestly, its getting Kafkaesque on here...

So if the lifeboats are prevented from leaving port, would that mean that no boatloads of refugees will set off across the Channel? Is that the twisted thinking behind those attempts by people with empty heads to block them in? They are wrong - the rickety boats will continue to leave the French coast and people will try to get here via trains, undercarriages of planes, boots of private cars, behind consignments in lorries, any way they can get out of their own countries.
Just stop and think for a moment. You might be fed up with things in this country, but how much would it take for you to dress your children in all the clothes you could, empty your larder into a suitcase to eat on the road, and leave your home? If you want to know WHY people forsake their homes, watch the news without turning off the nasty bits.

Some commendable comments on this thread, but no-one goes further into where the migrants will be housed once their applications have potentially been accepted.

The infrastructure is already sadly lacking! Where will they live? Which schools will their children attend? And how will the over-stretched NHS cope with thousands of extra citizens?

Felice
Put at risk?Just how ? lets not be too hasty but wait for details to come from a RELIABLE source .

Oh my goodness it just goes on and on and on.

Who put illegal immigrants in the boats, wasn’t aware France was war torn must have missed that on the news. So your saying your fine with these young fighting age men coming into our country. No they don’t fear for their lives otherwise would stop in first place that was safe, why leave wife and kids behind. Life boats are becoming a taxi service and ppl are getting fed up with it.

jenni123

It wasn't true, they did not do what was reported

There's a video

It wasn't true, they did not do what was reported

JenniferEccles

I don’t know how many times this has to be repeated but these
‘poor helpless migrants’ deliberately put themselves in danger in crossing the Channel when they have left a perfectly safe France!

‘How desperate must they be?’someone asked. Maybe that’s the question.
Why are they so desperate to get here after having travelled through umpteen safe European countries?
Is it because they feel they have won the jackpot by getting to the UK?
They know that there is a virtually zero chance of them being sent home even if their asylum application is turned down. Umpteen appeals by the ever eager Human Rights lawyers will ensure that even the criminals amongst them will still be here year after year.
How can that be right?

I don’t agree with what the protesters are doing but something has to be done to stop this illegal trafficking.

Well said. I'm sure some of the posters on here try to 'outdo' one another with how many heart wrenching words they can describe to gain sympathy

Brilliant post Dickens - the UK, and maybe England in particular needs to hang its societal head in shame at the way it has treated refugees and asylum claimants.

The country should also be ashamed of the constant "benefits cheats" attacks by sections of the media on its own citizens.

The establishment squirrel away £millions to avoid tax and those who do - like those referred to in the Pandora Papers - need to be found and assets frozen and it needs to be made highlighted that the likes of Rees-Mogg, Geoffrey Cox and others PRETEND they are patriotic. They are responsible for the lack of funding and assets available to essential public services across all aspects of UK society, which they clearly do not believe in.

lemongrove

Oh give over BlueBelle it’s a few stupid protesters that’s all.

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Exactly Elegran, busy and dangerous, and reliant on the RNLI.

Live shipping map of the English channel, one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world.
www.bognorregisbeach.co.uk/live-shipping-map-english-channel

Sorry. Trying again.

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Maudi “ Summerlove you must be very naive if you think every so called asylum seeker is pure as the driven snow.”

When exactly did Summerlove say that ???

I have read the replies to my post with interest, the replies seem to be concentrating solely on refugees and asylum seekers.
Do any of the posters have any idea how much sea traffic there is around the coast of the UK.
All of those at sea deserve the same treatment, and the RNLI do not discriminate.
The Channel is one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world and all deserve the same treatment.
I was addressing saving lives at sea, not pick and mix what suits your point of view.
The RNLI also work in close cooperation with other nations bordering the channel and and other sea areas and disturbing the service could cause serious problems, including ferries and container ships.
In the scheme of things asylum seekers are a tiny minority at sea on any day, tragic though they are.

The people we pass on our way to work may include individuals with less than perfect morals or ethics, so if any of them is knocked down by a car and injured, should we pass by without giving any help?

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I'm trying to think of an adjective which would describe you.

Scared? Manipulated? Misled? Obdurate?

I like obdurate.