People blocking Lifeboat Stations.

JenniferEccles

But they are only in those camps because they turn up in their hundreds and congregate close to the beaches where the people smugglers launch their boats.
If they applied for asylum through the normal channels there would be no need to camp out in Calais.

If you mean asylum here, you can’t apply for asylum until you are in this country.

So the IB people gluing themselves to motorways and digging up lawns are the lowest of the low, need to have special laws brought in to keep them in order and are being a real inconvenience to all us law abiding people.

But some daft fisherman standing in front of a lifeboat in his hi-vis and trying to prevent it launching just needs to be moved on by the police and anyway the people in the water probably brought in on themselves.

What double standards. Its mind-blowing.

Absolutely right, Forsythia. "A lie travels halfway around the world and back while the truth is still getting its boots on".

Lucca

Forsythia

Lucca

Oh dear. Plus ça change….

Oh dear, patronising.

Not at all. The same sentiments trotted out again, that’s all.

As it happens the story seems a bit exaggerated I read this :

There you go. More exaggerated lies and the real story comes out later once the damage has been done.

JenniferEccles

I don’t know how many times this has to be repeated but these
‘poor helpless migrants’ deliberately put themselves in danger in crossing the Channel when they have left a perfectly safe France!

‘How desperate must they be?’someone asked. Maybe that’s the question.
Why are they so desperate to get here after having travelled through umpteen safe European countries?
Is it because they feel they have won the jackpot by getting to the UK?
They know that there is a virtually zero chance of them being sent home even if their asylum application is turned down. Umpteen appeals by the ever eager Human Rights lawyers will ensure that even the criminals amongst them will still be here year after year.
How can that be right?

I don’t agree with what the protesters are doing but something has to be done to stop this illegal trafficking.

It doesn't matter if they've put themselves in danger but if they get into trouble and the boat is sinking they have to be rescued surely.

And what about the children on board?

The RNLI, as with other rescue services, don't pick and choose who is deserving, thank goodness.

The rights and wrongs and solutions are for the politicians to sort out, not the volunteers.

Be thankful that it's not your children or grandchildren bobbing around in leaky inflatables.

But they are only in those camps because they turn up in their hundreds and congregate close to the beaches where the people smugglers launch their boats.
If they applied for asylum through the normal channels there would be no need to camp out in Calais.

Really jackiest I have no intention of giving over what a disgrace some people are and if you don’t think that I feel sorry for you
I expected nothing different from you JenniferEccles have you seen how people are treated in the French camps besides that they may have family here and speak the language U.K. has been looked on as being humanitarian so that’s what they see
No one wins the jackpot coming here they often are stuck in detention centres for months or more in nit good conditions
Open your eyes and open your hearts it could be you one day knocking on someone’s door let’s hope they shut it in your face
Let’s swap some refugees for some of our work shy individuals we can throw some home grown murderers and child abusers in if you want

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Forsythia

Lucca

Oh dear. Plus ça change….

Oh dear, patronising.

Not at all. The same sentiments trotted out again, that’s all.

As it happens the story seems a bit exaggerated I read this :

lemongrove

Can’t agree at all trisher
In any case the ‘nobody puts their child in the water unless the water is safer than the land’ scenario doesn’t apply here, unless you think that France isn’t a safe place to be.An emotive poem it may be, but silly in this context.

So what exactly don't you agree with lemon the fact that this government are demonising refugees? the fact that they are in breech of International law? the fact that the UK will be in breech of UN agreements?
As for describing a poem as "emotive", well fleeing your country for any reason is pretty emotive without a poem. As for "silly". Did you read it? There's nothing "silly" about it. Shocking yes, disturbing yes. But I can understand why you wouldn't want to read it.

Jackiest

lemongrove

Oh give over BlueBelle it’s a few stupid protesters that’s all.

If it was the stupid protesters that are likely to be drowned then I would not mind.

Two wrongs do not a right make. That’s despicable.

Lucca

Oh dear. Plus ça change….

Oh dear, patronising.

They need to give their heads a wobble. Lifeboats protect everyone who needs help and don’t judge who is “worthy” or not.

Rightly.

Oh dear. Plus ça change….

JenniferEccles

I don’t know how many times this has to be repeated but these
‘poor helpless migrants’ deliberately put themselves in danger in crossing the Channel when they have left a perfectly safe France!

‘How desperate must they be?’someone asked. Maybe that’s the question.
Why are they so desperate to get here after having travelled through umpteen safe European countries?
Is it because they feel they have won the jackpot by getting to the UK?
They know that there is a virtually zero chance of them being sent home even if their asylum application is turned down. Umpteen appeals by the ever eager Human Rights lawyers will ensure that even the criminals amongst them will still be here year after year.
How can that be right?

I don’t agree with what the protesters are doing but something has to be done to stop this illegal trafficking.

Quite right. Easy to be keyboard warriors on here any sympathise with these people coming over. Perhaps this protestor feels that his town, which I believe is a poor town anyway, needs to spend the money on their own first. Perhaps being in the firing line and living on the coastline he sees at first hand what we do not. There is always another point of view, no less valid than those who post on here who are not living in these coastal areas.

I don’t know how many times this has to be repeated but these
‘poor helpless migrants’ deliberately put themselves in danger in crossing the Channel when they have left a perfectly safe France!

‘How desperate must they be?’someone asked. Maybe that’s the question.
Why are they so desperate to get here after having travelled through umpteen safe European countries?
Is it because they feel they have won the jackpot by getting to the UK?
They know that there is a virtually zero chance of them being sent home even if their asylum application is turned down. Umpteen appeals by the ever eager Human Rights lawyers will ensure that even the criminals amongst them will still be here year after year.
How can that be right?

I don’t agree with what the protesters are doing but something has to be done to stop this illegal trafficking.

According to the footage on twitter it was one protester who shouted, 'don't you bring back no more; that's why I have cancelled my donation to the lifeboat service.' His protest did not appear to impede the launch of the lifeboat, but others may have different information.

I read a truly horrific article in the New Yorker yesterday. It was written by the founder of Outlaw Ocean Project, and it’s title was The Secretive Prisons That Keep Migrants Out Of Europe. It’s quite a long read, and heart-breaking.

There are some obnoxious b......ds about. A recent example of selfishness/heartlessness is someone who complained about the air ambulance waking them up at 4am when flying to the local hospital. This person also said they would no longer donate!!! The air ambulance apologised and pointed out they were trying to save someone's life. Both these groups are run on a charitable basis and we're damn lucky to have such caring people.

I expect they were moved on by the police after a short while.

Lincslass

Can’t understand why this didn’t hit the news on the day it happened. My family told me about it on Saturday. They were so disgusted went down to the lifeboat station that day, donated and brought some gifts. My ex Merchant Navy brother also furious, it’s Maritime Law to help people at sea. Let’s hope these awful people are brought to book and fined very heavily. Wonder if the local fishermen involved will get their tickets withdrawn.

It takes some time for incidents to filter through to the news. At first the blocking of the lifeboat station wasn't believed 100% until someone who'd taken pictures disseminated the information.

lemongrove

Oh give over BlueBelle it’s a few stupid protesters that’s all.

If it was the stupid protesters that are likely to be drowned then I would not mind.

Oh give over BlueBelle it’s a few stupid protesters that’s all.

Hideous hideous people I cried with anger and sadness when I read this at the weekend I hope these hideously unkind people get some karma
How can anyone be so so heartless, sometimes I really despair at this country and what it’s become under this right wing government

Can’t agree at all trisher
In any case the ‘nobody puts their child in the water unless the water is safer than the land’ scenario doesn’t apply here, unless you think that France isn’t a safe place to be.An emotive poem it may be, but silly in this context.

Let's admit that this attitude has been fostered and encouraged by this right wing government and its policies about immigrants. In particular Priti Patel's upcoming Immigration Bill which breeches UN human rights and other International laws www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/12/priti-patel-borders-bill-breaches-law-human-rights
"No-one puts their children in a boat unless the water is safer than the land" A graphic poem about refugees www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/no-one-puts-their-children-in-a-boat-unless-the-wa/