The leader has become a liability

If you rule out all the front bench - a total waste of space as far as I'm concerned - who is left? Someone suggested this morning that Johnson should have more senior advisors - where will they come from? Some people will say Sunak but I don't think so since he's in favour of austerity which is the last thing that the country needs.

not just too weak - they just haven't got anyone ready, fit and capable!!!

CNN had a big article about the failure that is Johnson, but interestingly, and they didn’t expand, thought that the Tory party is too weak to consider a knew leader.

Not sure what they mean by that.

Daily Mail today has several articles which paint Johnson in a realistic (ie negative) light.
The suggestion is he will be gone by Easter unless things improve. Richard Littlejohn ironically asks if we can believe Mrs J has had her baby.

I’ll just drop this in here although it could do with a thread of its own, but posters do not appear to understand the seriousness of the implication of this bill.

Michael Rosen
@MichaelRosenYes
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When I see how the govt is proposing that people can have their British nationality taken away from them, it reminds me of how Vichy France 'denaturalised' Jews who naturalised after 1927.

Of course Mr Nigel thought they could gain Roger's seat with UKIP. It never happened did it

Roger Gale has always been a good MP and someone with integrity

Sir Roger Gale on Ch4 News just now seems to think Johnson needs to go. There are still some MP’s with a certain amount of integrity that no longer want someone like him leading their party.

Electorial commission has just today announced that it is fining the Tories over the flat finance and corruption.

Not to worry Johnson is intent in getting rid of the Electorial commission.

MaizieD

It was Maggie Throup, growstuff. Floundering...

I didn't see it, but I wondered.

Throup has been in charge of vaccines since Zahawi moved to Education. She doesn't seem on top of her brief, which is why the civil servant, Emily Lawson, was moved back to run the vaccine booster programme.

It was Maggie Throup, growstuff. Floundering...

Kali2

MayBee70

Seems to me that scientists, doctors or lawyers are the best people to have in government. Maybe the days of second rate journalists are over. I hope so.

Mind you, who was the poor Tory woman, a scientist apparently, who was on Question Time last night. Wow, I almost felt sorry for her- trying to deny what we all know is the truth (Christmas party) and support Johnson and policies. She had NO chance, and she was pretty hopeless at responding anyway. Lamb to slaughter. And I don't think there was a single person supporting her or Johnson in the audience- considering it was Weston-super-Mare, that was just incredible.

Was it Maggie Throup?

trisher

Wouldn't it be interesting if the standard Tory voter upset at the lack of integrity chose to vote differently? Perhaps that's what Starmer is hoping, that just as the Red Wall turned blue he can turn blue seats red. Because I'm fairly certain the Red wall seats will see things like this party as Boris just being one of the lads and admire him for doing it. Especially as many of them were probably doing similar things.

It’s a really difficult one for me trisher as our constituency MP is very effective at a local level.

I shall wait and see who the new leader of the Conservative Party is, along with the new (hopefully) Cabinet members and the manifesto.

The Conservatives will have to clean up their act enormously to secure my vote, at the moment I am politically homeless…

Galaxy

She seems competent, I dont agree with her on a number of social issues such as same sex marriage.

She's a conservative politician and a Christian. I didn't agree with her on many domestic issues, but on the world stage, she was statesmanlike and a true professional.

Dickens

Whitewavemark2

Did anyone see Angela Merkel’s retirement speech?

My goodness it was impressive.

She is everything that Johnson is not.

Intelligent, a woman of integrity, capable and competent.

A clear thinker who is able to convey every message with sense and clarity.

... interesting choice of music she made - 70s Punk rock

Yes, but Nina Hagen is a fellow former East German and the song had a hidden message about how East Germany was.

Sorry, that's off-topic.

Wouldn't it be interesting if the standard Tory voter upset at the lack of integrity chose to vote differently? Perhaps that's what Starmer is hoping, that just as the Red Wall turned blue he can turn blue seats red. Because I'm fairly certain the Red wall seats will see things like this party as Boris just being one of the lads and admire him for doing it. Especially as many of them were probably doing similar things.

I have until the release of this video thought that Mr.Johnson was pretty much teflon coated .

If the Conservative backbenchers have any integrity they will start sending in their letters …

It astounds me that anyone could have looked at boris the buffoon and thought “oh he will be an excellent PM”. That he is modelling himself on trump the deranged is even more staggering.

The current government are so deep in their daily lie telling that they wouldn’t know the truth if it bit them on the bum.

The conservatives have and always will be, in my opinion, the party of self interest. The “devil take the hindmost” brigade.

So many liars.

youtu.be/XEx_kjKj6MU

In normal times, deliberate lying to parliament has always - without exception - been a resignation matter.

No argument, the whole cabinet seem to be tainted by this.

Becoming a bigger liability by the day.

Came across this in a book of quotations published in the mid 1980's.

"A conservative is someone who demands a square deal for the rich. "
David Frost TVam 1983

Also, opinions don't seem to change much it seems :-

The Conservative Party is an organised hypocrisy.
Benjamin Disraeli, speech in the House of Commons, 1845

Urmstongran

mokryna

But I wasn’t allowed to vote like many others in Europe. We didn’t count. I am British.

Same for my stepfather in the Indy1 referendum in Scotland mokryna. He is in his 90th year. Born in the West Highlands. Speaks Gaelic fluently. However, he has lived here in Manchester for many years. Because he wasn’t resident in Scotland (even though he still owned the family house up there that his sister - who voted - lived in) he wasn’t allowed a vote either. Choices have consequences. That’s life.

But my exFrench husband who lived 20 years in China could still vote in France and I expect that although he has moved to Canada, he continues to do so.

Richard Murphy

If the NHS really needed the £11 billion of extra funding that the national insurance increase from next April will provide how come Sunak can now be planning to cut income tax by at least £11bn, with most benefit going to the rich? Will the sick be paying for Sunak's tax cuts?

Kali2

Oh, will do, don't worry, will do.

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