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No 10 was breaking Christmas Lockdown rules last year.

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MaizieD Thu 02-Dec-21 11:18:55

While most of the UK was observing the Lockdown rules last Christmas staff at No. 10 were having a great time...

When asked three times at PMQs yesterday to deny the story Johnson refused to do so. Because, it seems, even he couldn't take his habitual lying that far.

All that an official Downing Street spokesman could come up with was that 'covid rules were observed at all times... No denial. hmm

This is only the latest in the steady stream of high profile lockdown breaking stories we've heard over the past 18 months.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-broke-covid-lockdown-25585238

Some very sad stories on this thread from people who weren't able to see dying relatives because of the rules.

twitter.com/fascinatorfun/status/1466159001217941518

With the possibility that the spread of the Omicron variant may call for more stringent rules just before Christmas this year these revelations may well lead people not to observe them.

While I realise that we will never get rid of this virus how can we even begin to reduce its spread when those who are supposed to being giving a lead by showing a good example flout the rules?

I should add that I'm hmm as to why this story has only broken now.

MayBee70 Wed 08-Dec-21 22:53:24

There’ll be a big reward for someone to provide evidence.

GillT57 Wed 08-Dec-21 22:42:06

Lucca

I so wish one of the putative guests would produce video evidence…….

I don't think it will take long. Johnson throws staff and colleagues under the bus and some may decide to get their version in first.

Lucca Wed 08-Dec-21 22:12:11

I so wish one of the putative guests would produce video evidence…….

Kali2 Wed 08-Dec-21 22:05:56

Thank you for your apology - it is never easy to do so.

rosie1959 Wed 08-Dec-21 21:23:08

Kali2 I apologise it was not meant to be insensitive.
It has been handled very badly by the PM if had acted quickly and reprimanded the perpetrators immediately and made them publicly apologise this would have not have snowballed
As for Allegra Stratton and those with her they should have been sacked immediately for gross misconduct
There are much more important things going on at the moment and this is undermining them

Alegrias1 Wed 08-Dec-21 20:46:15

Much as I think the whole thing stinks to high heaven, I can understand why the police aren't investigating.

Food and drink might have been brought in by the attendees themselves. I'm sure No 10 has a substantial "works canteen", or whatever the posh equivalent is, so there would be plenty nibbles and bottles of wine to avail themselves of. The people who were in No 10 could say that they were there working. I'm sure late nights aren't unusual at No 10. The policemen on the door might not have been aware of anything different to any other night.

The people attending know they were doing something that wasn't allowed so I'm sure it was kept very secret.

SuzieHi Wed 08-Dec-21 20:39:43

Can’t be that hard to find out who organised “it “ and who attended whatever “it “ was. All should be named and shamed and given hefty fines at least.
Also, Individuals concerned should have the guts to make public apologies - otherwise we should expect resignations

Kali2 Wed 08-Dec-21 20:32:43

It wouldn't be difficult to find out who the policemen or women were on duty at Number 10 on that day and get them to testify.

MayBee70 Wed 08-Dec-21 20:27:50

Visgir1

MayBee70

So, the Metropolitan police aren’t going to investigate the party because they have no evidence. Isn’t it their job to look for evidence? Or am I missing something here??

No evidence Met can't do anything without that, so it's classed as "hearsay".

But food and drink would have been purchased and delivered. People have to sign in and out of No 10 so they would know everyone that was there that night.

Kali2 Wed 08-Dec-21 20:27:43

rosie1959

Quite frankly couldn't give a Scooby doo is it really that important

I do hope rosie, that after 7 pages and all that has happened in the media and TV, that you realise how insensitive, and wrong, your comment was on page 1.

Kali2 Wed 08-Dec-21 20:08:15

The Police's job is to find the evidence ...and act upon it.

Visgir1 Wed 08-Dec-21 20:04:54

MayBee70

So, the Metropolitan police aren’t going to investigate the party because they have no evidence. Isn’t it their job to look for evidence? Or am I missing something here??

No evidence Met can't do anything without that, so it's classed as "hearsay".

MayBee70 Wed 08-Dec-21 19:39:26

So, the Metropolitan police aren’t going to investigate the party because they have no evidence. Isn’t it their job to look for evidence? Or am I missing something here??

varian Wed 08-Dec-21 19:33:58

I find it incomprehensible and rather depressing to listen to Tory voter's in what was Owen Peterson's constituency say they still intend to vote the same way in the byelection because none of this makes any difference to them.

What is wrong with these people?

Mollygo Wed 08-Dec-21 18:52:02

It’s all appalling and what for me is the worst impact of this is that it gives all those who don’t obey and have never wanted to obey rules, even simple ones like mask wearing, social distancing etc, a reason to bleat ‘well if they don’t obey rules to protect others, why should I?”
I don’t think it would have made the more selfish members of the UK obey rules if the government had set a good example, but it would have stopped that group using the government as an excuse.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 08-Dec-21 18:31:15

Bizarrely I think this debacle might save both lives and help the NHS.

Johnson is using plan B which he had previously stated that he was not in favour and in any case nothing would be done until the middle of the month.

He is using this as a dead cat, but it should benefit us all as early intervention has never been Johnson’s forte.

Josianne Wed 08-Dec-21 18:14:44

Alegrias1

Are you serious?

Its a 3 floor building with 100 rooms.

Do you think they popped out to the front door to give him a cup of mulled wine and asked him to keep schtum?

Well I think the party was in the library, with rope to hang themselves (or worse), and that the dangerous Colonel Mustard organised it.
The wine was of course French. I'm not sure about the cheese?

Mamie Wed 08-Dec-21 18:11:07

Michael Rosen says that this year the party game at No. 10 will be "pass the buck". ?

Jabberwok Wed 08-Dec-21 17:50:27

Predictable rude reply from Alegrias1 to a perfectly civil question. Oh well, only to be expected!

MayBee70 Wed 08-Dec-21 17:44:24

Was that Tugendhat (sp)? I was in and out of the living room so missed a lot of it. DH watched most of it.

M0nica Wed 08-Dec-21 17:28:11

ButMaybee that is always the case in any situation like this.

Listening to the Foreign Affairs Committee questioning that Senior Civil Servant yesterday about why he went on holiday - and stayed away for 11 days during the Afghanistan Crisis. along with the Foreign Minister and almost every other senior person in the FO.

He was very apologetic, and with hindsight, realised this was a mistake - and said so several times. I was delighted when the Chairman turned to him and said It sounds less credible every time you repeat it. It sounds platitudinous.

Kali2 Wed 08-Dec-21 17:14:07

I don't care what you think of Blackford, he is totally right here and I am sure has the vast majority of the population with him on this one:

www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-politics-59578079

Petera Wed 08-Dec-21 16:57:45

MayBee70

I actually think that Johnson is finished, now. But what really annoys me that any remorse is because they’ve been found out, not because of what they’ve done.

I agree (about the 'found out' not about the 'finished') but there's a reason for the cliche that it's never the act that gets you it's the cover up.

MayBee70 Wed 08-Dec-21 16:47:54

I actually think that Johnson is finished, now. But what really annoys me that any remorse is because they’ve been found out, not because of what they’ve done.

Alegrias1 Wed 08-Dec-21 16:39:49

Are you serious?

Its a 3 floor building with 100 rooms.

Do you think they popped out to the front door to give him a cup of mulled wine and asked him to keep schtum?