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Definitely politics: catching up with Brexit

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Whitewavemark2 Sun 12-Dec-21 11:31:42

There is so much happening that is not being reported, I thought that it would do no harm to get those interested up to speed.

1. UK pays £24 for one Moderna dose. EU pays £1

UK pays £15 for one Pfizer dose. EU pays £10.60

AZ in UK is £2.17 per dose.
In EU it’s £2.15

2. ITV news reporting
Analysis shows Brexit caused £12 billion of lost trade in October

@NicholasTyrone
I see the government has very quietly folded in the fishing dispute with the French. This is Brexit in a nutshell: the UK government makes a big noise, puffs out its chest - and then reality kicks in and a complete cave in ensues. It happens over and over again.

3. Daily Express
@Daily_Express
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Dec 9
UK trade has shrunk since Brexit while EU thrives -

4. The U.K. is paying 25% tariffs on steel we export to USA. The EU - zero
No level playing field there

Whitewavemark2 Fri 17-Dec-21 15:14:38

I’ve been thinking about the result. It took place in one of the most Brexit constituencies in England.

The fact that they were prepared to vote for a strongly remain party suggests to me that Brexit is losing its grip and many people are regretting their vote like the farming community, which has been badly hit.

GillT57 Fri 17-Dec-21 14:51:28

Celebrating the Trade Deal with Australia which has just been signed is like celebrating having a tent after deliberately burning your house down. That's aside from the animal husbandry regulations being considerably lower than the EU demanded, and the thousands of air miles involved compared to trading with the EU. Utter madness, and yes, I am still going on about it after five years.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 17-Dec-21 12:14:06

Johnson has caved in and agrees that the ECJ will continue to oversee cases in NI.

Of course it will! What else could do it’s roll?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 17-Dec-21 10:14:25

It’s like Christmas has come all at once.

The strong Brexit supporting constituency has dismissed the one who brought them Brexit and even more joyous news the government has signed a deal for 0.01% boost to the GDP over the next 15 years.

Kali2 Wed 15-Dec-21 21:46:54

GillT57

Gwyneth

Why do people bother to respond to threads like this it’s just the same thing over and over again. It’s only purpose to give certain posters yet another platform for their anti Boris rhetoric. I only looked at it because I don’t want to start wrapping Christmas presents. But on balance I think wrapping presents might be more interesting.

Feel free to get on with your wrapping then. This is a politics thread

this - simple

Whitewavemark2 Wed 15-Dec-21 21:08:31

Allsorts

It’s nice they have somewhere to vent about Brexit and Boris with like minded folk.

Yes and I think there are more of us then you might realise.

Allsorts Wed 15-Dec-21 21:02:42

It’s nice they have somewhere to vent about Brexit and Boris with like minded folk.

GillT57 Wed 15-Dec-21 20:50:23

Gwyneth

Why do people bother to respond to threads like this it’s just the same thing over and over again. It’s only purpose to give certain posters yet another platform for their anti Boris rhetoric. I only looked at it because I don’t want to start wrapping Christmas presents. But on balance I think wrapping presents might be more interesting.

Feel free to get on with your wrapping then. This is a politics thread

EllanVannin Wed 15-Dec-21 20:50:14

Nowhere MayBee70.

MayBee70 Wed 15-Dec-21 20:34:46

Gwyneth

Why do people bother to respond to threads like this it’s just the same thing over and over again. It’s only purpose to give certain posters yet another platform for their anti Boris rhetoric. I only looked at it because I don’t want to start wrapping Christmas presents. But on balance I think wrapping presents might be more interesting.

So, how DO you think brexit is going?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 15-Dec-21 20:30:06

Intelligence and Mogg are not two words that naturally spring to mind??.

MayBee70 Wed 15-Dec-21 20:25:32

He’s disgusting. He filibusters to stop important legislation go through. An ability to use verbal diahorrea at will doesn’t necessarily equate to intelligence.

Gwyneth Wed 15-Dec-21 20:24:20

Its no apostrophe!

Gwyneth Wed 15-Dec-21 20:22:54

Why do people bother to respond to threads like this it’s just the same thing over and over again. It’s only purpose to give certain posters yet another platform for their anti Boris rhetoric. I only looked at it because I don’t want to start wrapping Christmas presents. But on balance I think wrapping presents might be more interesting.

Urmstongran Wed 15-Dec-21 20:21:51

Yes I agree WWmk2 that his ‘geeky’ persona is cultivated. No matter. He is intelligent. He has a grasp of his brief (no question ever put by the Opposition fazes him!). He takes great delight I think of promoting his old-fashioned gentlemanly behaviour.

Kali2 Wed 15-Dec-21 20:18:36

The Madame Bouquet of the political world- at least she was funny.

Urmstongran Wed 15-Dec-21 20:17:31

Me too EV!

Whitewavemark2 Wed 15-Dec-21 20:17:01

?? no one in this country speaks with the sort of upper class drawl that Mogg has cultivated, nor his exaggerated veneer of politeness and insolence. Even members of the RF don’t speak like Mogg.

He is an idiot. In fact you can’t even call him an upper class idiot as he comes from a relatively ordinary background whose parents bought him the start in life that most children do not have. I suspect that he adopted his persona whilst at boarding school to avoid being bullied.

EllanVannin Wed 15-Dec-21 20:13:53

JRM's a very clever man and I love hearing his " George Sanders " voice grin

MayBee70 Wed 15-Dec-21 20:13:14

I think HIGNFY will be more careful which politicians they invited to the show in future given that they kick started Johnson’s political ambitions. I find Rees Mogg chilling….

Urmstongran Wed 15-Dec-21 20:10:05

I don’t find JRM a fake at all.
He is endearingly polite, listens intently and replies with good humour and knowledge of the Byzantine rules & protocols of Parliament.

EllanVannin Wed 15-Dec-21 20:04:01

I'm afraid I'm a cynic when it comes to politics as there are always ulterior motives in whatever politicians think up.

EllanVannin Wed 15-Dec-21 20:00:52

If BJ had been true to his word on Brexit he'd have had it all worked out but the truth of the matter is that he was a Remainer and would have gone with the flow.

His " go Brexit " was a ploy to his Prime Ministership. I've always said this and still believe it so.

GillT57 Wed 15-Dec-21 19:55:28

varian

I wonder how long it will be before we'll see the comedic character Mogg invited by the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation onto HIGNFY?

He was on it a few years ago. Hislop introduced him as ",,The Honourable Member for the 17th century". I too used to find him a subject of humour. I don't now. He is a sneering supercilious fake.

varian Wed 15-Dec-21 17:47:14

I wonder how long it will be before we'll see the comedic character Mogg invited by the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation onto HIGNFY?