Definitely politics: catching up with Brexit

Over an hour has passed since Whitewave posted the above. Where are all the Brexit supporters? They're not all getting their Sunday lunch ready because I've seen at least one on another thread.

I can give you an answer.
We are bored stiff with these daily threads.
Can only speak for myself of course but I wouldn’t mind betting a lot of people agree with me.

There is not much they can say in the face of those figures.

Yup! ?

Too busy sorting out Waitrose Christmas delivery and last minute online shopping (all ethical of course, no plastic tat)

Was agreeing with Jennifer...not Nandalot.
The French are not happy at all about fishing rights, so would question the above quote in any case.

The French are definitely not happy about the fishing.

“French trawlermen are drawing up plans to ruin Christmas for millions of Britons by blockading Calais and other key ports in response to the resolution of the post-Brexit dispute over fishing licences.

Industry sources told the Telegraph on Sunday that they will attempt to snare up cross-Channel trade over the festival period because many of their colleagues were refused permits to operate in Britain’s waters.

“We have made it clear: protests are planned, following on from the blockade of Breton and Norman ports that took place on November 26,” said Oliver Lepretre, head of the Hauts-de-France regional fisheries committee.

“Actions will target the import of British products. French fishermen are more than ever united against adversity and don’t intend to take it lying down faced with so much bad faith.”

December 23rd is the mooted ‘action day’ apparently.

Clearly more reporting needs to be done about the failure that is Brexit.

It isn’t getting through is it!

The pandemic is masking Brexit. We had good news about Brexit recently. She’ll, the City remaining as financial hub in Europe. I can’t be bothered to regurgitate the others (I’m preparing Sunday dinner!).

Raab is about to bring a new Bill before Parliament.

Just because you think it’s a disaster WWmk2 it doesn’t mean that it IS. It’s early days.

Dinahmo

Over an hour has passed since Whitewave posted the above. Where are all the Brexit supporters? They're not all getting their Sunday lunch ready because I've seen at least one on another thread.

That’s a bit sad when you spend your Sunday morning following other posters around this site. ?

How Brexit became a disaster everywhere apart from in the eyes of the British newspapers

As crises mount, the polls show voters turning at last. But the national newspapers that backed Leave – even the two now edited by Remainers – continue to pretend there is nothing wrong.

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/how-mail-sun-express-report-brexit/

TL;DR - UK can't join Europe-wide scientific alliance because we don't keep our promises.

That's a disaster.

researchprofessionalnews.com/rr-news-europe-horizon-2020-2021-12-seven-more-countries-associate-to-horizon-europe/

JenniferEccles

I can give you an answer.
We are bored stiff with these daily threads.
Can only speak for myself of course but I wouldn’t mind betting a lot of people agree with me.

?? still find time to read them though.

Didn’t you support the separation of news/politics. I thought the idea was to avoid these sort of threads?

I make no apologies for your boredom. There are still those who realise that Brexit is a disaster for our country. It isn’t working at any level.

I see the next thing under threat is the EHCR. Those seeing a parallel with the 1930s will not be surprised, but I can’t see it happening without consequences for our relationship with democratic countries.

This from The Statesman

But today both the Human Rights Act and Britain’s membership of the convention are under threat. Though adhesion to the ECHR is written into the Brexit withdrawal agreement, Boris Johnson is pledged to scrap the HRA.
The reasons the Tories want to scrap the HRA are obvious. What they want to do to asylum seekers is incompatible with the convention, as well as numerous other international agreements, including the 1951 Refugee Convention, the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child and all maritime law. The proposal to “push back” migrant boats crossing the Channel is illegal under the fourth protocol of the ECHR, which forbids collective deportations. It is also in direct contravention of maritime law, which makes refusal to go to the aid of a vessel in distress a criminal offence.

The proposal to deport asylum seekers to jails in third countries – the so-called Australian-style solution to the Channel crossings – violates the Refugee Convention and the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, as well as numerous provisions of the ECHR.
If the Nationality and Borders Bill goes through as currently amended, it will run in direct contravention to the HRA, and is prepared by the Tories as the next iteration of Brexit. Britain, having quit the EU, will be forced to leave the European Convention if it scraps the HRA, or amend it as Raab intends. That, in turn, will void the Brexit withdrawal deal.

Asked a couple of weeks ago how Brexit was working out, 61% told Opinium that it was going badly, against 32% who thought it was going well. A similar proportion told YouGov that the government was handling Brexit badly, against 23% who thought it was doing OK. Now 44% tell Opinium that Brexit is hurting the economy, against 23% who say the effect is positive.

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/how-mail-sun-express-report-brexit/

varian and that is in spite of the continual support of Brexit by much of the media.

People are seeing through the lies at last. I think next year will be the tipping point, when Brexit will no longer seen as desirable or sensible.

I forecast a push to rejoining the SM and CU.

Urmstongran

The pandemic is masking Brexit. We had good news about Brexit recently. She’ll, the City remaining as financial hub in Europe. I can’t be bothered to regurgitate the others (I’m preparing Sunday dinner!).

Raab is about to bring a new Bill before Parliament.

Just because you think it’s a disaster WWmk2 it doesn’t mean that it IS. It’s early days.

And all we hear about is Christmas parties from last year.

Vaccines may be cheaper in the EU but isn't there a lower take up with a higher surge of cases. How many EU countries in tighter restrictions than the UK? Aren't some EU countries making vacvinations compulsory? Is it really better in the EU?

As for the french blockading Calais that's nothing new. Used to happen when we were in the EU.

Do seem to remamber reading some recent reports of a german banker who commented that he was surprised how well the UK economy was doing after Brexit, way beyond expectations. Seemed to remember something about Shell moving their operations to London, out of the EU. Don't recall these items of news being raised by WWM for discussion on GN. Of course with politics one can always be selective on what's 'important' and blame it all on an event. But isn't that a kind of fascism? Are you a fascist WWM?

Holysox if you watch Tim Spector, professor at King's College London and of the Zoe app you will get accurate information about Covid in the rest of Europe.
WWM is not a Fascist, how insulting and useless throwing labels around. Such a personal attack and quite unsubstantiated.
Some of us are interested in the ways in which news is being hidden about the costly failure of Brexit, as expected.

.. Watch on YouTube that is, easy to find. An excellent weekly report based on data.

lemongrove

Yup! ?

lol was that a response to the post above yours ...

great news, you are getting the message (ah)

jillyjosie thank you for your support.

But it is clear that holysox does not know me because if she did she would know that I never respond to silly and puerile posts. What is the point?

Umg ''“We have made it clear: protests are planned, following on from the blockade of Breton and Norman ports that took place on November 26,” said Oliver Lepretre, head of the Hauts-de-France regional fisheries committee.

“Actions will target the import of British products. French fishermen are more than ever united against adversity and don’t intend to take it lying down faced with so much bad faith.”

December 23rd is the mooted ‘action day’ apparently.''

I truly can't blame them- they have been treated so unfairly, and it is ruining the total demise of fishing traditions for whole region.

Glad we are travelling via Tunnel on the 18th, though.

Pity those setting out just before Christmas Eve though.

For sure, totally unfair on them. If at all possible, I'd say change booking, take a few days off and travel before.