Johnson to make a statement at 8pm

Maybe that's it Santana, maybe they will be Moderna or Pfizer farted rainbows

Kali2

rosie1959

Kali2

But not a word of apology! Not one.

Not really the time this was a far more important message apologies will not save people from Omicron

Totally disagree. It is very widely agreed that the most important issue re the many Parties at No 10, and the denials, will cause, for a large proportion of the population, means that they say 'S*d this for a stupid game of soldiers- I shall totally ignore his advice, and will do as I please'. Plenty of evidence right here, even among nice, gentle and well-behaved Grannies!

And THAT is a disaster in the making.

Well that makes idiots of them, and no better than those they presume to have done this.

As forsythia said He was driving home a serious message
Puts a new light on Chris Rea’s song!

Juliet27

As forsythia said He was driving home a serious message
Puts a new light on Chris Rea’s song!

Yes, and if he adds too many apologies into the mix of his speech then the driving home would end in a big car crash.
Keep focused on the road ahead

JaneJudge

He did look a mess. It was pre recorded and he was rambling and looked awful. He is supposed to instill confidence in him, the government, our health service.

He looked a mess. His hair was wild, he looked exhausted….He’s had COVID and still recovering, he is under a lot of stress, his wife has just had a baby, he has a toddler at home, he’s trying to run the country, his mother has recently died, his enemies are circling. Who in all honesty would want to be him?
I’d rather wild hair, driving home a vital message on vaccines than primped, preened, shiny faced and earnest.

He looked a mess. His hair was wild, he looked exhausted….He’s had COVID and still recovering, he is under a lot of stress, his wife has just had a baby, he has a toddler at home, he’s trying to run the country, his mother has recently died, his enemies are circling. Who in all honesty would want to be him? I’d rather wild hair, driving home a vital message on vaccines than primped, preened, shiny faced and earnest.

I totally agree. He looked worried and stressed. We need to take the message on board for our own sakes and the sakes of our loved ones.

Zoejory, your friend (and one of mine) have left it just a little bit late, as it takes two weeks or so for the immune response to build.

With Omicron ripping through the community, they'd better get jabbed and hide at home until Christmas.

Still my (idiot) friend jabbers on about possible vaccine side effects in five years' time. Again (yet again) I've said that I plan to still be alive by then.

Hetty58

Zoejory, your friend (and one of mine) have left it just a little bit late, as it takes two weeks or so for the immune response to build.

With Omicron ripping through the community, they'd better get jabbed and hide at home until Christmas.

Still my (idiot) friend jabbers on about possible vaccine side effects in five years' time. Again (yet again) I've said that I plan to still be alive by then.

That's weird your (idiot) friend "jabbers on" Hetty but won't get the "jab". She needs a taste of her own medicine!

Well some have taken him seriously. Younger dd managed to book a booster jab at 3am for 4th January which was the earliest. The website keeps going down as it is overwhelmed with thousands wanting to get booked.

Boris looked really worn out and unwell to me.
I know there are lots of G Ns on here who seem to get massive amounts of pleasure from constantly knocking the government but for goodness sake can you say for certain any other party could have done it better ,hindsight is a wonderful thing.

It is the inconsistencies that are really beginning to hit home with the whole strategy.

The biggest wave we have yet seen and yet nothing about lockdown etc.

So a letter this morning

When me and my mates go to watch our football team, we have to wear masks. We also wear masks on the bus ride to the football grounds. However, before we all get on the bus we all meet up in the pub and spend a jolly hour or two massless in a hit crowded atmosphere.
Insanity.

The government is allowing parties, but exhorting those who can work from home.

There are so many more.

People have completely lost trust.

God I really should read before I post!,

Well I would say that the governments have done better so far in both Scotland and Wales Pudding123. At least they don’t make massive commitments without consulting with the service that is delivering them, or tell people they must do one thing and then do the opposite themselves.

There are of course a few very left wing posters, but most people aren’t knocking the government because they are Tory, we are knocking them because this particular government making a terrible job of governing the country. History will prove us right for sure.

Pudding123

Boris looked really worn out and unwell to me.
I know there are lots of G Ns on here who seem to get massive amounts of pleasure from constantly knocking the government but for goodness sake can you say for certain any other party could have done it better ,hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Completely agree. They couldn’t and wouldn’t have done it better and in fact would likely to have been worse. It’s an unknown quantity that we are dealing with.

People may have lost trust in Johnson but most people aren't idiots. Most people will take on board the message about boosters irrespective of how unkempt or tired he looked.

All the complaining about being able to do A but not being able to do B - if people can't understand the basics of reducing repeated contacts then they are completely misunderstanding the concept of risk.

Lockdown isn't an easy first step that can be invoked whenever anything looks dangerous, its not a zero-sum game. Sorry to sound preachy, but be careful what you wish for.

We don't know if a Labour government would have done worse. The Labour administration in Wales have done OK.

You can't complain about people knocking the Tories and then knock Labour.

Totally agree Alegrias1

I think there is a good possibility that other parties would have done better. One example I can think of that others would have responded better is when businesses e.g. McDonalds, Butlins, closed down (before furlow payments were announced) before being asked to do so by the government.

Commercial organisations could see what was necessary and, to their own detriment, took brave and decisive action before the government was man enough and organised enough to do so.

I ask myself if other parties would have had the same contracts for mates, failed systems, Uturns, partying, non-mask wearing, delayed action and slap and tickle with girlfriends in the office attitude. I can't think they would or certainly not to the same extent. Those failings have been spectacularly evident throughout the pandemic to an extent that has required some real concerted application and effort from the current incumbents.

Labour seem to have voted for the benefit of the people rather than their own ends given every opportunity - the same can't be said for all Conservative MPs.

‘Labour seem to have voted for the benefit of the people rather than their own ends given every opportunity - the same can't be said for all Conservative MPs.”

That will be a first then.

coastpath your point about the cronyism and corruption is bang on.

This would never happen under any other political party. Except for one Farage is associated with. We know he is fraudulent.

Perhaps Forsythia you could give us an example of where Labour have voted against public interests during the pandemic as I can't think of one.

Forsythia

Pudding123

Boris looked really worn out and unwell to me.
I know there are lots of G Ns on here who seem to get massive amounts of pleasure from constantly knocking the government but for goodness sake can you say for certain any other party could have done it better ,hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Completely agree. They couldn’t and wouldn’t have done it better and in fact would likely to have been worse. It’s an unknown quantity that we are dealing with.

The government has had nearly 2 years now to educate themselves about this virus. 'Unknown quantity' doesn't wash as an excuse now.

Why are they ignoring all other possible mitigations, particularly in schools where infections are spreading very fast and being passed to parents, carers and grandparents? Schools need money to improve ventilation and install air filtration units. Any sign of them being offered any?

Not asking for a lockdown, just for more than relying on vaccines alone. The target he has chosen, without, apparently, any consultation with the people who have to deliver it, will be impossible to achieve.

Just talking to our neighbour - both nurses. They laughed at how the Javid goes from attacking GPs one minute to him saying this morning how wonderful they are.

They are very doubtful that the target can be achieved, and think that other mitigation should have been introduced in order to delay spread.

He should have said all that in parliament. I resent this presidential style of government.

River walk - I couldn't have said it better.

He must think we're all fools.