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Politics: I stand by my freedom and right not to wear a mask, but I will vote to get rid of the Human Rights Act.

(41 Posts)
EllanVannin Tue 14-Dec-21 14:20:45

MaizieD I don't ever remember all the population being vaccinated when Asian 'flu was abound in the late '50's. I had two vaccinations at that time only because I was working on a ward with people who became sick and sadly died of it.

Not a mention when the horrendous Hong Kong flu was killing many in the late 60's either.

EllanVannin Tue 14-Dec-21 14:15:31

User7777, sorry about your predicament too. What are we supposed to do when nobody seems interested ---only in targets ?

MaizieD Tue 14-Dec-21 14:12:56

User7777

Me too, ellan vannin,, just one jab so far. Needed 2nd dose , not 3rd booster. All caused by 1st jab, and being I'll on it. I would wage my docs not interested unless I can be jabbed according to their agenda. We are losing any rights we had.

I'm sure that EV, with her nursing background, knows perfectly well that you don't need 100% of the population to be vaccinated in order to keep a disease at bay.

I don't think anyone has any problem with the minority of people who can't be fully vaccinated. It's the ones who refuse to be vaccinated that are the problem. They are the ones who are threatening your 'rights' by weakening the over all 'herd protection'...

User7777 Tue 14-Dec-21 13:58:33

Me too, ellan vannin,, just one jab so far. Needed 2nd dose , not 3rd booster. All caused by 1st jab, and being I'll on it. I would wage my docs not interested unless I can be jabbed according to their agenda. We are losing any rights we had.

FarNorth Tue 14-Dec-21 13:11:22

I'd guess that people voting for freedoms to be removed are those who normally do what they like and can't imagine that changing.

eazybee Tue 14-Dec-21 12:57:53

Interesting.
The same topic, with very similar wording, was proposed for discussion in a group to which I belong. You must follow the same directives.

The consensus was that covid, the Human Rights Act and the Police Act were all separate issues and it was perfectly responsible to respond differently to all three.

Caleo Tue 14-Dec-21 12:56:20

I am horrified at Raab and afraid for the future of our country.

EllanVannin Tue 14-Dec-21 11:38:30

I don't feel free at all because through no fault of my own I only had one vaccination and if proof of full vaccinations have to be provided at every turn, then where/how do I stand ?

So far as infection goes it's imperative I look after myself, while also safe-guarding others by keeping my distance, though I can't envisage any infection coming from myself if I don't go anywhere to pick anything up. No parole for me sad

I can't even join the freedom rebels in case I catch anything gringringrin

Ilovecheese Tue 14-Dec-21 11:19:49

Plus they will vote against having to show a vaccine passport but vote for having to show identity documents at elections.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 14-Dec-21 11:17:37

The ridiculous thing is that both are happening today.

They will troop in and vote against the latest measures.

Then troop in or nod in agreement as Raab outlines the freedoms he intends to strip us of in the HRA.

MaizieD Tue 14-Dec-21 11:14:54

People actually voted for these loons...?

maddyone Tue 14-Dec-21 11:13:50

I don’t understand why any MP would vote against the measures being introduced to try to control Covid.

Ilovecheese Tue 14-Dec-21 11:12:10

I think they see the human rights act as solely concerned with immigration and the rights of immigrants.
I remember Theresa May wrongly stating that someone could not be deported as she would have liked, because he had a cat.
Therefore they think that they themselves have no need of the act.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 14-Dec-21 11:05:50

So we have a group of rebels who for reasons of “ individual freedom” are rebelling against the latest measure being introduced with Labours assistance to compete the spread of omicron.

To me they make zero sense.

They have also supported the police act that takes away individual right to,protest, they are supporting the dogmatic reforms to the HRA without providing evidence for the changes, they have voted to take the individuals freedom of movement I can provide lots of other examples.

So how can they argue individual freedom at one time yet vote to remove it at another.?

Blossoming Tue 14-Dec-21 10:22:50

I don’t know, could you tell us a little more?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 14-Dec-21 10:18:08

What is that about? Doesn’t make sense.