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Sunak and his quiet trip to USA

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GrannyGravy13 Sat 18-Dec-21 10:58:46

I hope you are including the Labour Governments of Mr.Blair and Mr.Brown in your post MaizieD they introduced PFI contracts which have in most circumstances been a disaster.

TillyTrotter Sat 18-Dec-21 10:56:31

I stand corrected. Thank you.

eazybee Sat 18-Dec-21 10:55:46

I have said elsewhere that the weak link in the NHS is the GP service, and that many GPs want to privatise in the way opticians, dentists and vets have done. The very large pay rise and altered working conditions, as allowed by T.Blair, is not enough. This is being led by doctors, not politicians.

As always, many of the comments on here are entirely without factual basis or evidence.

silverlining48 Sat 18-Dec-21 10:55:28

OUr health service is not free. We all contribute with our taxes.

TillyTrotter Sat 18-Dec-21 10:51:41

Does anyone have the stats to hand that show how many other countries run a free health system similar to ours in the U.K. please?

MaizieD Sat 18-Dec-21 10:35:50

He was keeping out of the way so as not to be associated with the tory sleaze being constantly revealed over the past couple of weeks. He's got a leadership bid firmly in his sights.

Why do you think this, wwm2?

I don't think, baggs that most people realise how absolutely dire the US health 'system' is and I don't think that they believe that any UK government would dare to tamper with the NHS. But the government is being run by free market, small state zealots who've been dying to make money out of the NHS for years... They've been cutting funding in real terms and pushing the notion, accepted by many on these forums, that the UK can't afford the NHS any longer. If covid leads to the failure of the NHS they won't be pointing at themselves when it comes to allocating blame...

Peasblossom Sat 18-Dec-21 10:30:17

So you first of all decided he was on holiday. Even though you didn’t know anything at all. And you were wrong.

Now you’ve decided to that he went to sell the NHS. Even though you still don’t know anything at all.

I’ve decided he went to buy Disney. Even though I don’t know anything at all?

Isn’t it scandalous that they’re going to spend all that money buying a theme park when it’s so badly needed elsewhere. Not to mention the eco issues.

?

Jillyjosie Sat 18-Dec-21 10:24:11

There is a letter in the Guardian this morning from someone who has suffered a double break to her ankle and whose injury is simply on a list for surgery at King's College, London. It seems to me that the NHS is already at breaking point or beyond.
It's very serious. What can be done? It doesn't help that some Conservatives value shopping for tat above health care for serious conditions. What was that Morrissey MPs quote about healthcare and a socialist state?!

GagaJo Sat 18-Dec-21 10:23:15

I wish the bl**dy Tory party would remember they represent the people. The people want the NHS.

TillyTrotter Sat 18-Dec-21 10:18:46

I’ve been waiting for the knives to be thrown at Rishi Sunak, and here’s one ……..
I am sure he is doing his job and will have been “advised” and “briefed” on whatever business he performed in the U.S.

GagaJo Sat 18-Dec-21 10:13:48

It has always been the Tory desire, to sell off the NHS despite their official denials. It drives a lot of their policy. Unfortunately, the pandemic has shown how much we need the NHS. Fortunately for them, the vast majority that voted for them voted for an anti immigration Brexit. Pity we didn't have a crystal ball before the election to foresee the pandemic.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 18-Dec-21 10:09:07

Whitewavemark2 as you have absolutely no idea what discussions took place your OP is at best guesswork or at its worst pure whataboutery.

The world is still firmly in the grip of a pandemic, and quiet frankly I would be more surprised if government officials were not having meetings with other countries health care providers.

Baggs Sat 18-Dec-21 09:59:18

the apathy by the U.K. public relating to the NHS is astounding.

Why do you think this, wwm2?

Kim19 Sat 18-Dec-21 09:55:13

W, don't feel at all apathetic but somwhat.... powerless?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 18-Dec-21 06:26:44

So whilst all our attention was taken up with Johnson’s latest idiocy, it seems Sunak, who fancies himself as our next prime minister was in USA not on holiday as I first thought but talking to USA health bosses.

Can I say that if Sunak's intention is to sell off OUR NHS, that he doesn’t give it to those who run one of the worse health services in the world?

I suspect however he will have his way, as the apathy by the U.K. public relating to the NHS is astounding.