Lord Frost has resigned

Alegrias1

Did you read my post at all Calendargirl?

Doesn't appear so...

Which one, there are so many?

If you mean the one that posted as I was writing mine….

Oh, very good. ROFL.

Not.

ROFL?

Not on the GN acronym list sadly.

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Calendargirl

I for one thought we were supposed to have moved on from ‘Leavers’ and ‘Remainers’.

The referendum was 5.5 years ago, for goodness sake.

Rightly or wrongly, whatever anyone thinks, that is IT!

The Referendum result was 5 years ago.

Brexit is very much in its infancy - we aren't yet out of the 'grace' period until January next year when customs import declarations will be required on all goods entering Great Britain from the EU, and custom checks will begin on those goods.

It is not "done", it's not over. The effects of the biggest change to our economic and constitutional life since the war will be felt for decades.

Yes, we've left. But it certainly does not mean "that's IT" and you will not stop people talking about it. In the same way that those opposed to our membership haven't stopped talking about it since 1975.

Who told you were were supposed to have "moved on" anyway? It's a topic of great interest to many, both Leavers and Remainers, I assume you're not telling us to shut up about it?

Calendargirl

ROFL?

Not on the GN acronym list sadly.

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You could always ask people who keep posting silly emojis. I assume they know what they mean.

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I could be wrong though.

monica who are the Ilk?

A very unpleasant choice of phrase.

Not a very GN phrase I would have thought?

Why so much nastiness to folks I assume you do not know in real life?

Would you have these conversations face-to-face, with the same insults?

“In 2017 a Tory minister told The Times, "We are in a bind. If we cancel Brexit we destroy ourselves, and if we go ahead we destroy the country"

5 years later, they've done both.”

GrannyGravy13

Why so much nastiness to folks I assume you do not know in real life?

Would you have these conversations face-to-face, with the same insults?

Not sure who you are addressing GG13, but there's nothing I've posted here that I wouldn't say to anybody in real life.

Now I expect someone will come along and tell me how I should let go of my anger, or that I'm not a nice person, or something like that.

I think a good way to gradually get rid of the right wing loons in the government is to make them Brexit minister - one by one.

It soon sees them off?

alegrias I expect gg13 is talking about the phrase “your ilk” there is nothing anyone has said otherwise that wouldn’t be said in a good face to face debate.

Not at all Alegrias1 the barbed comments towards posters who have differing views seem to be getting more frequent.

I am all for healthy debate but I do not like personal insults alluding to voters intelligence . In my opinion they are unnecessary and do not further the discussions.

Some people are such snowflakes ….
No doubt they are happy that flower growers in the U.K. are having to leave their flowers to rot - no one to pick them- so sales from the Netherlands are up ( but more expensive) . Just what they voted for - why aren’t we allowed to criticise such madness?

Dickens

I cannot quote as I can’t remember when it occurred, but it was on GN many moons ago when we were told by some that we needed to move on from the idea of Remainers and Leavers.

I assume you’re not telling us to shut up about it?

Heaven forfend, as James Bond once said.

It is as plain as the nose on the Pope's face that the reason Frost has quit is because he doesn't want to be around when reality hits in January, perhaps he has finally got around to reading the details. He is a chancer, a pal of Johnson, got bribed by a seat in The Lords, he is a turncoat, having been a strong advocate of remain, so was I suppose, the perfect candidate.

However, I am truly disturbed by the number of people, including on GN who are so set on their beloved Brexit that they will throw all employee protections, health and safety regulations, minimum wage, fair disability benefits etc to the bonfire. If I was younger I would be even more furious that this smug, self satisfied generation which enjoyed protection, safety, free university education are now intent on depriving the next generation of the same. Or, do these slashes in state protection etc just intended for 'the others', and not your own children and grandchildren?

GillT57

It is as plain as the nose on the Pope's face that the reason Frost has quit is because he doesn't want to be around when reality hits in January, perhaps he has finally got around to reading the details. He is a chancer, a pal of Johnson, got bribed by a seat in The Lords, he is a turncoat, having been a strong advocate of remain, so was I suppose, the perfect candidate.

However, I am truly disturbed by the number of people, including on GN who are so set on their beloved Brexit that they will throw all employee protections, health and safety regulations, minimum wage, fair disability benefits etc to the bonfire. If I was younger I would be even more furious that this smug, self satisfied generation which enjoyed protection, safety, free university education are now intent on depriving the next generation of the same. Or, do these slashes in state protection etc just intended for 'the others', and not your own children and grandchildren?

Good post

GrannyGravy13

Not at all Alegrias1 the barbed comments towards posters who have differing views seem to be getting more frequent.

I am all for healthy debate but I do not like personal insults alluding to voters intelligence . In my opinion they are unnecessary and do not further the discussions.

Still none the wiser GG13

But I do find myself wondering about the reasoning powers of people who thought Brexit was a good idea and I'll not be changing that position any time soon. ?‍♀️
People are entitled to their own opinions of course, but if I'm in a discussion with someone who tells me that they know that day is night, then I'm entitled to wonder about their intelligence.

C'est la vie.

However, I am truly disturbed by the number of people, including on GN who are so set on their beloved Brexit that they will throw all employee protections, health and safety regulations, minimum wage, fair disability benefits etc to the bonfire.

To be fair, GillT57, I don't think Ug and her mates bothered to follow the links in my post that tell you exactly what the ERG Brexiters want. Otherwise I wouldn't have got such a ridiculous reaction.

I don't think MOnica bothered to read it either.

If they'd read it I would hope that they don't actually support resorting to Victorian employment conditions and privatisation of the NHS.
As I recall they voted for £350million a week to the NHS, not selling it to the Yanks...
Supply side policies. Just look them up and remember them.

Can I remind Dickens of January next year is when Putin has decided to round-up the Ukraine ?
Do we, amongst the latest debacles have a competent defence secretary ? I hope so !

This should be on the minds of politicians who wish to keep Europe, Western Europe and the US, on side.

EllanVannin

Can I remind Dickens of January next year is when Putin has decided to round-up the Ukraine ?
Do we, amongst the latest debacles have a competent defence secretary ? I hope so !

This should be on the minds of politicians who wish to keep Europe, Western Europe and the US, on side.

Oh god there is that as well!

Well we don't exactly want to go all guns blazing to the Ukraine border Whitewavemark2, do we ?

Well, we can’t because we depend on Putin for our energy, don’t we?

We could refuse to have it, though, as a protest. That’d’show’im…

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Lord Frost 's letter to Boris

Funny how the year before Brexit we had 8,000 migrants crossing the channel in small boats, last year it was 20,000+, this year 30,000+, wonder if Brexit voters see the link? Or is that what they voted for?