Will someone please tell them Quidditch isn’t real?

Oh, we have cross-posted.

I would still like to see a direct quote from JKR, but to come back to Quidditch, that is also confusing me . As JKR invented the game, how can she be distanced from it? Also, as I remember it, Quidditch is magical, and involves flying broomsticks. How can any game played by Muggles not be distanced from it? A game of hobby-horse netball or whatever is in question seems only to be linked with Quidditch by the name. Are the players just seeking to capitalise on the imagination of someone they despise?

Even Autocorrect recognises the word Quidditch. It’s not one I use regularly (funnily enough), so it must be in the Apple dictionary. I’m sure that JKR has legal claim to it anyway. If I were her I’d be taking action to distance the WERMs from my invention. If I could be bothered to sink to that level, that is.

JK Rowling seemed to have shot herself in the foot when she tweeted that the word “Women” should have been used in the slogan “People who menstruate”. This started an twitter storm which has left her being labelled a Terf.
Thank you for answering.

It seems to me to be a huge leap to go from the idea that women are included in the category of ‘people who menstruate’ to being transphobic . I don’t use Twitter. Perhaps you could show us a direct quote from the woman herself, so we can judge for ourselves?

TERF, of course, stands for ‘Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist, which is even more confusing - how is asking that women be included in that phrase in any way excluding transpeople or being radically feminist? Even if we count transmen as male, women make up the vast majority of menstruators. It seems to me that it is the other way round, and that a refusal to include us is Women Exclusionary Radical Misogyny. WERM?

Maybe a direct quote would help to give context and clear the matter up? All I’ve read are paraphrases of what she said, which doesn’t help me to understand, particularly as they are always from people who dislike her.

Mollygo, this is it, it is all about labels. There are 2 distinctly different games called Quidditch, one land based, the other a fantasy invention.

To be politically correct a Trans man is a man and wouldn’t recognise himself included in something advertised just for women. A 10 year old girl who menstruates may not recognise herself as a woman and may feel the advertised sanitary products are not for her. However, everyone who menstruates are people and recognise themselves as such.

Anyway the argument about what we call the different people who menstruate has been discussed fully in the past and is derailing the thread.

What is under discussion are two different games but both of which include broomsticks and a golden snitch. Personally I’m on the fence about whether JK Rowling is transphobic or non-inclusive or not. To me it seems she dug a hole she can’t get out of. Rightly or wrongly she has become demonised as such and that’s why the organisers of the game played on the ground want to distance the game from her.

Pinkarolina, she was just stating a fact.
Only women menstruate, whether they are transmen or non-binary. Maybe JKR shouldn’t have bothered. After all some people, think Quidditch is real and pretend they can play it.
The Quidditch argument shows how stupid people can be. Quidditch is a fantasy game, from a story, played flying on broomsticks. Any land-based game is not really Quidditch, in the same way that any male cannot menstruate.

JKR didn’t ‘shoot herself in the foot’. Sadly she’s been shot in the back by misogynistic activists who don’t understand inclusivity

If a non binary Male was bleeding monthly they would need to seek urgent medical attention if a non binary female (who was pre menopausal) was bleeding monthly, they would need to respond in the way all women do when they have a period. Their sex is the deciding factor in the response.

Yes how transphobic to ask that the word woman be used and not removed. Be careful your misogyny is showing.

“Quidditch” is a real and organised sport and but probably should be renamed and distanced from JK Rowling’s invention if the organisers wish it to continue to be an inclusive game.

JK Rowling seemed to have shot herself in the foot when she tweeted that the word “Women” should have been used in the slogan “People who menstruate”. This started an twitter storm which has left her being labelled a Terf.

Why did she ignore the fact that transmen and non-binary people may also menstrute?
Was she being non-inclusive or was she insisting on all people who menstruate being labelled as women?

As others have said, she wrote in a way that appealed to even reluctant readers, so I'm not convinced that she is overrated. These things are subjective anyway.

Her descriptions seem to bring scenes alive, which doesn't always happen in books for children or adults.

It was a "hit and run" post Mollygo!

That’s the joke of the week from AmberSpyglass. Highly overrated as a poster. Next will she be telling me the one about men growing a cervix?

Doodledog

Galaxy

The Guardian are currently looking for votes for their person of the year. It's very easy to vote.

Yes, and a vote for JKR wouldn't be wasted, IMO.

Done. I just googled guardian person of the year, easy,

Some people think Twitter is real life.

Fun fact The Amber Spyglass Is a fantasy novel written by that well known misogynistic author Phillip Pullman.

MerylStreep

^5 years later^ ?

My sat nav is very dodgy ?

JKR is a wonderful inspiration to so many. People like AmberSpyglass come onto threads, make one or two accusations, and then retreat. I have never known her/him to be able to quote one transphobic sentence that JKR has said or written. No TRA has ever been able to come up with a direct quote for the simple reason there isn't one. Not...one....single.....one. Instead they resort to stamping their feet and saying she is because they said so. Science, reality and truth are strangers to them in this area.
As for Quidditch, the earthbound version these players engage in is so divorced from the fantastic game played in the books, it is only right they choose a new name. No reason to sully JKR's inspired invention.

5 years later ?

Galaxy I clicked on the guardian link via Feminism board on Mumsnet and voted for JKR.

Galaxy

The Guardian are currently looking for votes for their person of the year. It's very easy to vote.

Yes, and a vote for JKR wouldn't be wasted, IMO.

The Guardian are currently looking for votes for their person of the year. It's very easy to vote.

I do wish my leg muscles were more like that - perhaps it might help my knees.

Is there a prize for coming last in the cycling race? Like 5 years later than everyone else?

Chewbacca

^Is saying women exist transphobic?^

Increasingly, yes it is. And it's "poor sportsmanship" apparently to complain when this person competes in the women's cycling race and wins the world record because they say they're a woman.

You’ve got to admit she’s a stunner. I know, bad taste, couldn’t resist ?

I have yet to be shown anything that she has said that is transphobic. Simply stating biological facts is now considered "transphobic".

Calistemon

Chewbacca

Is saying women exist transphobic?

Increasingly, yes it is. And it's "poor sportsmanship" apparently to complain when this person competes in the women's cycling race and wins the world record because they say they're a woman.

Just cheating
That's no woman, that's a misogynistic male.

Some men really hate women succeeding at anything, don't they!
Pathetic.

They do (hate women). And it is (pathetic).

JKR is a great role model for both girls and boys. She showed great perseverance managing to write at all as a skint single parent, and she hasn't forgotten her roots. As others have said, she wrote in a way that appealed to even reluctant readers, so I'm not convinced that she is overrated. These things are subjective anyway.

Her indomitable stance in the face of disgraceful abuse from Trans Activists is admirable. She is able to use her fame and money to stop the more objectionable ones in their tracks, by prosecuting them. Most women who get abuse can't afford to do that, and the risk to their careers of standing up to Trans Activism is too great for the vast majority of women to take. (Google Kathleen Stock if that seems unlikely.)

I have seen and heard countless jibes aimed at JKR, but I have yet to be shown anything that she has said that is transphobic.

Chewbacca

^Is saying women exist transphobic?^

Increasingly, yes it is. And it's "poor sportsmanship" apparently to complain when this person competes in the women's cycling race and wins the world record because they say they're a woman.

Just cheating
That's no woman, that's a misogynistic male.

Some men really hate women succeeding at anything, don't they!
Pathetic.

I wonder if the Quidditch leagues, or whatever they have, were paying any royalties for use of the idea and name?