The Queen’s speech

Anniebach

I don’t know the life style of those with holiday homes, those who sleep on the streets .

What point are you making Annie?

Shelflife we can't help what family we are born into but it doesn't mean we can't see faults with it. I'm very different to how I was brought up. You'd have to be really stupid to believe you're so special that you deserve to have such a privileged life funded by others who have so much less.

A very moving speech , her love for her husband, her grief,
her pride in her son and grandson carrying on with her husband’s care for the environment and speaking of 4 new babies in her family this year.

Yes I felt that too henetha.

I felt that I knew her better through this year's speech, she was not just speaking as Queen but more personally than usual.
I enjoyed her speech.

I thought it was an amazing address - the best ever! The Queen is a very elderly woman recently bereaved please leave her alone. A fuss indeed about her clothes ! As one poster had already said ' we can't help which family we are born into' I am not a great monarchist but I respect the Royal Family - not impressed with Harry and Meghan though!! The Queen gave a personal address and I appreciated that .

I don’t know the life style of those with holiday homes, those who sleep on the streets .

I like the monarchy and am politically left so I would prefer that nobody is too rich and has huge amounts of money they don't need. There will always be a class of rich people , but these should not be allowed in law selfishly to conserve their immoderate wealth for their own use.

True, the Queen is a wonderful professional with a tremendous conscience of duty to her subjects and her family. She deserves to be paid for her expertise. However it often seems she doesn't really know any life style other than that of the very rich. One can't really blame the Queen, as she is a victim of her social situation like the rest of us.

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Alegrias1 you didn’t have a problem with posters who brought Diana into a thread about Kate playing a piano

Alegrias1

So am I allowed to play thread police and say that a thread about the Queen's Christmas message is no place for people to display their personal animosity and hatred of her grand-daughter in law? Or is she fair game?

Play thread police if you like. The heading was the Queens speech. Some commented on the material of the Queen’s speech and how she might have felt delivering it.
Then there were those who used it as another opportunity to make their anti-royal feelings clear-like we didn’t already know.
Others used it as an opportunity to comment in her clothes and the inadequacy of her underwear -I wonder if posters are that rude in person.
Others are now using it it as an opportunity to move it on to the rest of the family.
If all those other comments are allowed by the thread police, why worry about the latter comments?
I really enjoyed the bit about the school, because . . .

Algerias I have to be honest and tell you I really don’t care! Post what you want and allow others to do the same. Not difficult is it?

So am I allowed to play thread police and say that a thread about the Queen's Christmas message is no place for people to display their personal animosity and hatred of her grand-daughter in law? Or is she fair game?

Pity Kate didn’t bring her piano as she did play beautifully. Beats listening to Meghan’s whining any day!

If the same comments were being made about Meghan there would be plenty piling in complaining about spite and nastiness. Seems our Queen is fair game.

Not sure what your point is here.

The anti-monarchy comments on this thread have been subjected to a full and thorough pile in and some have been deleted. There's no double standards here. The Queen is not "fair game" but making the subjects think she is, is all part of the Windsor PR machine.

I'm sure everyone has sympathy with an elderly lady who lost her husband this year. However the rest of the speech yesterday was just way of positioning the heir and the next in line, and their adoring and fragrant wives, as the next steps in the long line of unelected Heads of State that we're expected to welcome with open arms. There's never been any mention of how much they apparently all do with respect to climate change in any previous speech, but its flavour of the month now that there's brownie points in it for the Royals.

At least Kate didn't bring her piano.

Zoejory

How very strange to be commenting on her bra.

It’s strange, rather unpleasant and totally unnecessary.

If the same comments were being made about Meghan there would be plenty piling in complaining about spite and nastiness. Seems our Queen is fair game.

I thought she looked a little frail, but she is 95 and she’s been through an awful lot of family trauma this year.

As for the two usual posters with their bitterness and bile - stuck and record spring to mind.

I’ve just watched the Queen.

I have an Aunt who is exactly the same age as the Queen, all but a couple of months. Her body looks exactly the same, as did my mother’s. It is age and weight loss. Perfectly normal.

The brooch weighed down her dress that is all.

What a load of fuss people make!! Get a grip.

Thought the speech appropriate and rather pleasant.

I thought it was a nice address. I liked that there was a nod to others who have been bereaved this last year.

I did notice the slight clothing 'fails' that people have commented on but really don't think they were worth even mentioning. Looking a little for symbolism in her clothes and jewels and thought the blue brooch looked a bit odd, then realised, red dress, white pearls and blue brooch. I understand that she is always careful in her choice of jewellery for public appearances.

How very strange to be commenting on her bra.

Like or not she is the monarch of our nation. She's 95 and like many of us has a diverse/diversive family. I'm not royalist or anti monarchy but to criticise this lady for her underwear is unforgiveable. Her comments about her late lamented husband were moving..

Amen to that NanKate.

What a gal ? She leads by example, is brave, has a good sense of humour. Keep going your Majesty.

Not a squeak from over the pond. Long may it last.

I dont like the comments about her bra, not really necessary. I also found Paddyanne's comments Ill timed and nasty.
I watched the Queens Speech and thought she was very thoughtful and respectful of peoples feelings, and the things she said about Phillip were from the heart.
You cannot police posts, but if you make the sort of comments Paddyanne made you can understand people being annoyed.

Why don't you pop off a letter in the post to tell her what you think? After all, she's public property.

Republicans like me have to take all the flak on here about being disrespectful, hating the members of the RF and all that jazz. Yet people who consider themselves upholders of the sanctity of the monarchy think its OK to tell somebody how to dress. I don't care if she turns up dressed in a potato sack, as long as she is fulfilling her duties as HoS.

I think the Queen has never before spoken so personally in her Christmas address. It seemed very appropriate.

She has certainly lost weight, but many ladies in their 90’s look like that. Regarding her outfit, I know it’s a look she favours, but I think she would look less frail if she didn’t have her dresses showing her neck so much. Perhaps it’s to emphasise her pearls, but I think a more covered up look would be more flattering.

Just my opinion, Angela (note to Queen’s dresser),