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The Queen’s speech

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Whitewavemark2 Mon 20-Dec-21 06:56:07

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nadateturbe Sat 25-Dec-21 15:50:19

Jaberwok people are allowed to comment. Yes I thought she looked very thin and frail actually But she has lost her husband whom she loved dearly all those years so it's understandable. I did wonder at her being allowed to apoear in something that looked cheap and ill fitting. Perhaps she was stubborn about wearing what she wanted. Lol.

To be honest I thought the speech was just ok..

Sweetpeasue Sat 25-Dec-21 15:49:31

I too was moved by the Queen's speech today and for the first time. She did look frailer and thinner of face. In a way I can't pinpoint, she looked less'regal' and more vulnerable. Her references to losing a husband are universal and have nothing to do with wealth.
Peace and goodwill to all men.

Soupy Sat 25-Dec-21 15:39:04

Very good speech; one of the better ones but we both commented on the poorly fitting dress. Looked as though it needed pulling down plus a better bra.

Anniebach Sat 25-Dec-21 15:35:34

I didn’t notice , I was so moved by her speech

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 25-Dec-21 15:28:49

Yes I thought she looked very frail. I have to agree about needing a different bra. I suppose being generously endowed shows up more when your shoulders and arms grow thinner. I feel guilty about mentioning this at Christmas. Just an observation not a criticism.

Jaberwok Sat 25-Dec-21 15:24:36

Why the inappropriate comment she's 95 for goodness sake who on earth cares about her undergarments?

Sparklefizz Sat 25-Dec-21 15:14:54

I have just watched the Queen's speech. I thought she'd lost weight, her face is thinner.

I know that Rigby & Peller, the corsetieres, lost their By Royal Appointment because of gossiping about the Queen, but I have to say that she looked this afternoon as if she could do with a good bra.

FarNorth Sat 25-Dec-21 14:44:44

And?

Anniebach Sat 25-Dec-21 14:41:59

Really ? She was kind about Harry, agreed with him

nadateturbe Sat 25-Dec-21 14:36:39

Of course it's predictable. Paddyann is passionate about her beliefs. And she's entitled to voice them without being attacked. But really Paddyann could you choose your timing better?!

I'm sorry the queen has lost her husband. It must be very sad for her. Of course there are other rich people who could be criticised but they're not funded by the taxpayer.

I watched the service at Westminster last night. They were praying for those in need. I couldn't help wondering about the cost of the robes worn by the Dean, Archbishop etc and about how the RF present could pray and ignore how the wealth accumulated by their family could help. Strange kind of Christianity.
Anniebach no one hates individual members of the RF. It's the institution that Paddyann hates.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 25-Dec-21 14:20:00

I agree Annie. Some people can’t even give it a rest on Christmas Day.

Mummer Sat 25-Dec-21 14:19:37

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Anniebach Sat 25-Dec-21 14:15:29

Totally revolting

GrannyGravy13 Sat 25-Dec-21 14:12:26

Grany

I though paddyann54 was the best made me ?

Revolting-Subject
@UnRoyalReporter
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22h
Here is the queens ACTUAL #ChristmasMessage

“One is sitting down to Christmas with #PrinceAndrew & will be served taxpayer funded luxury from servants in a palace and one does not give one fuck about justice or even accountability.”

Totally unnecessary, totally predictable

Grany Sat 25-Dec-21 14:01:21

I though paddyann54 was the best made me ?

Revolting-Subject
@UnRoyalReporter
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22h
Here is the queens ACTUAL #ChristmasMessage

“One is sitting down to Christmas with #PrinceAndrew & will be served taxpayer funded luxury from servants in a palace and one does not give one fuck about justice or even accountability.”

Hetty58 Fri 24-Dec-21 18:02:44

I thought it was funny - and very apt!

Anniebach Fri 24-Dec-21 17:57:58

I think her comments are filled with hatred

Jaberwok Fri 24-Dec-21 16:44:34

paddyann54 has always made unpleasant spiteful comments about the RF including the Queen. Quite honestly they're best ignored.

Elegran Fri 24-Dec-21 15:42:40

The checks and balances that Grany can't see are provided by the lawmakers, (that is the whole of Parliament, which includes the House of lords as well as the House of Commons), the law recorders and dispensers (the justiciary) and the law enforcers ( the police forces)

These three organisations can and do keep the Executive governing body (The Prime Minister and the other Ministers of the Crownwho assist him) from becoming a one-man dictatorship.

When the Executive tries to limit the powers of any of the other branches, they are trying to upset the balance of power - in their favour of course.

This applies to wanting the final say when the justiciary have passed a verdict on an appeal, wanting to prorogue Parliament to stop them debating a Bill which the Executuve to pass, so that a deadline is crossed and it becomes law, and any other legislation that removes a power from another branch to give it to the Executive.

The general public don't see the erosion of the balance until it has become law and then by protesting against it they risk arrest.

Confrontational party politics and the whipping system lead to fights being about party advantage, not about what is best for the country and the diverse people in it.

Jaxjacky Fri 24-Dec-21 14:56:56

Glad I’m not one of her staff answering that question ??

Grany Fri 24-Dec-21 13:59:12

GrannyGravy13

Grany

luluaugust

As a modern monarch the Queen can only advise her Government, she reigns but does not rule. I would imagine this is exactly her thoughts, although we shall never know, because they are the thoughts of at least half the population.

Archaic not modern. So we have a PM with no checks or balances from the Head of State bit like a football match with no referee So she is pointless and powerless.

Oh I can think of lots of people who are powerless, I would never think of calling anyone pointless

As our Head of State she is as regards holding our PM to account.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 24-Dec-21 13:46:49

Grany

luluaugust

As a modern monarch the Queen can only advise her Government, she reigns but does not rule. I would imagine this is exactly her thoughts, although we shall never know, because they are the thoughts of at least half the population.

Archaic not modern. So we have a PM with no checks or balances from the Head of State bit like a football match with no referee So she is pointless and powerless.

Oh I can think of lots of people who are powerless, I would never think of calling anyone pointless

Grany Fri 24-Dec-21 13:41:34

Elegran

If she did over-rule the leader and spokesman of the elected Parliament of this democratic nation, she would have faced a barrage of criticism. When Prince Charles wrote a letter merely expressing his opinion, he was treated as though he was planning a revolution.

It's the job of Head of State to intervene when the rule of law in our constitution is broken.

It's not Charles job or the queen's to lobby ministers for what they want but they do. Nor queen's consent prince consent means they can change legislation if it effects their private interests.

Grany Fri 24-Dec-21 13:37:01

luluaugust

As a modern monarch the Queen can only advise her Government, she reigns but does not rule. I would imagine this is exactly her thoughts, although we shall never know, because they are the thoughts of at least half the population.

Archaic not modern. So we have a PM with no checks or balances from the Head of State bit like a football match with no referee So she is pointless and powerless.

Elegran Fri 24-Dec-21 09:53:42

If she did over-rule the leader and spokesman of the elected Parliament of this democratic nation, she would have faced a barrage of criticism. When Prince Charles wrote a letter merely expressing his opinion, he was treated as though he was planning a revolution.