Horse Puncher sacked from teaching job

FannyCornforth

She was a primary teacher.
Restraint, patience and kindness are the most important qualities I can think of off the top of my head.
Would you want her teaching your child with ADHD or whatever trisher?
Never mind an NQT who you speak so disparagingly about; I’d prefer the Caretaker to teach my child than a woman such as her

As I said if the trust promoted her then you are effectively saying they are promoting inadequacy. They need investigating then.

vegansrock

She was dismissed for bringing the trust into disrepute which is a sacking offence.

And of course she is expensive. Highly qualified, experienced teachers are. NQTs are cheaper.

She was a primary teacher.
Restraint, patience and kindness are the most important qualities I can think of off the top of my head.
Would you want her teaching your child with ADHD or whatever trisher?
Never mind an NQT who you speak so disparagingly about; I’d prefer the Caretaker to teach my child than a woman such as her

She was dismissed for bringing the trust into disrepute which is a sacking offence.

Even if the horse ran away it shouldn’t be punched or kicked and she’s holding the rein tightly so it can’t move its head away. I can’t believe anyone is defending this. The huntspeople who stood around and watched and didn’t intervene are just as bad. If she did this in front of people what would she be doing in private. Disgusting behaviour.

I hadn't even realised children were taken on hunts

GG13 if she is such a liability why do you imagine she has acheived promotion and a leadership role? If she is so bad the trust she worked for should be the subject of an ofsted inspection because they are promoting unsuitable people

I remember taking on a 16.2 stallion many years ago. Dead behind the eyes through being hit. He did well with me in his old age. I often think about him.

Incidently I think hunting is awful. I think the people who do it are despicable. I'd support any investigation that fully looked at all the facts. What I won't do is support an on-line witch hunt that condemns and judges or the dismissal of someone because they were publicly condemned by social media (and the fact that they probably cost a lot).

Apologies for typos but this is a subject I feel so strongly about

trisher

I suppose if the horse had kicked a child or run further away everyone would be saying that she should have controlled it. Even if it was it is no justification for someone losing her job.

The children that were present this equestrian event in all probability had been around horses mot of their lives. They would have known to either keep out of the way or assist.

I know it’s hard for some to acknowledge but teachers are not all perfect, some are as flawed as the next person, and need to be treated the same.

trisher, you haven't seen all the footage. This was a quiet country lane filled with horses and humans. There was a child leading the horse. This woman decided to give it a slap and kick because it clearly wasn't behaving as she deemed fit.

You are defending the indefensible here.

Apart from anything else can you imagine the chat between parent and child? "Who is your teacher for next year?*, Oh the one who kicks horses

Her position is untenable.

She should have taken more care. As a horse and donkey owner I have never felt the need to slap or kick one of them in my life. In fact if anyone was so foolish as to do such a thing it's more likely that the horse would either kick out or bolt.

She had to lose her job. She has proved she's just not up to doing anything remotely to do with teaching young children

trisher

FarNorth

That's true trisher I haven't.
Are you saying that the kicks and punches in that clip were likely to have a useful effect?

I wasn't there. I have found on the internet (and it's damned difficult to do because most versions are cut ) footage showingthe horse running away from the girl who was trying to load it. They were in the road. There were children standing very close. She was holding another horse when she grabbed the reins of the loose one. Is the horse dangerous? I don't know. Would it have kicked one of the children standing close to it? I don't know. Was she making sure it didn't? I don't know. And neither do the rest of you. So this trial by media thing is just as equivalent to letting off a bomb. It has effectively ruined her life and she's gone into hiding. Feel proud of yourselves.

I have nothing to be ashamed of trisher my opinion is my opinion.

Having been around horses in many situations, even having to unload two in the middle of a duel carriage way due to a problem in the horse box, I have never felt the need to punch an animal. Nor have I ever seen anyone else punch an animal. In fact that behaviour in many equestrian situations would get her banned.

I suppose if the horse had kicked a child or run further away everyone would be saying that she should have controlled it. Even if it was it is no justification for someone losing her job.

Repeatedly hitting a horse across the face, kicking and terrifying the animal would not ‘teach’ it anything, other than to fear humans.
Anyone who can lose control in that way, or worse, believe that cruelty is a way of training an animal isn’t an appropriate person to work as a teacher.
Lots of research folks thst links cruelty to animals to other forms of abusive behaviour
Goes without saying that losing her job and being publicly shamed is punishment enough. Death threats say more about the people making them, they should be tracked down and prosevuted

It was awful to witness. Cruel. That poor horse was rearing it’s head back, so frightened.

FarNorth

That's true trisher I haven't.
Are you saying that the kicks and punches in that clip were likely to have a useful effect?

I wasn't there. I have found on the internet (and it's damned difficult to do because most versions are cut ) footage showingthe horse running away from the girl who was trying to load it. They were in the road. There were children standing very close. She was holding another horse when she grabbed the reins of the loose one. Is the horse dangerous? I don't know. Would it have kicked one of the children standing close to it? I don't know. Was she making sure it didn't? I don't know. And neither do the rest of you. So this trial by media thing is just as equivalent to letting off a bomb. It has effectively ruined her life and she's gone into hiding. Feel proud of yourselves.

Your post trisher (11.12) is not worth any comment whatsoever.

*hire should be *horse

FarNorth

That's true trisher I haven't.
Are you saying that the kicks and punches in that clip were likely to have a useful effect?

Speaking as a horse owner, punching and/or kicking any hire would have a detrimental effect.

It would frighten and stress the animal and in all probability cause the animal to bolt.

We have had horses for years, punching or hitting a horse round the head is NEVER ACCEPTABLE.

The fact that she could lose her temper so quickly with a beautiful trusting animal does make me wonder how quickly she could lose her temper with her pupils?

That's true trisher I haven't.
Are you saying that the kicks and punches in that clip were likely to have a useful effect?

It was hunt too, the people on the quad are the heavies paid to protect them. I find it all a bit that the people who are involved in these hunts are often people who do public service, such as the police.

Sorry TIckinbird, crossed post.

And she wasn't stopping him from running into the road at all. Horrible individual.