Ghislaine Maxwell Found Guilty

Only women from abusive childhoods and lived in poverty can be abused, never wealthy women

I have some sympathy for Ghislaine Maxwell.

This has been a show trial to divert attention from the American judiciary's woeful attempt at prosecuting and sentencing Epstein. Because he has evaded them through death and careful management of his fortune Maxwell has become his scapegoat.

The people who should be prosecuted are the men who enjoyed the services of these girls but it appears American law follows the same path as this country, (which may be different now); the madam of the brothel is prosecuted, not the clients.

Maxwell connived at, and possibly enabled, Epstein's predilection for underage girls and deserves punishment, but not the horrific sentences being cited of seventy years in prison. Possibly there will be plea-bargaining to produce evidence about others involved.

Iam64

MOnica, no doubt your point has some merit. It’s also important to remember, she’s a very intelligent, well educated woman who made informed choices about her life. She could have got a proper job, built a career.

The young girls she and Epstein groomed and sexually exploited had very difficult, neglectful, abusive childhood experiences. They were vulnerable to exactly the kind of criminal activity perpetrated on them.

Agree

I feel sorry for the victims and what they have had to suffer from those who refused to believe them. Their bravery is to be admired, particularly as the majority of them came from dysfunctional and poor households.

MOnica, no doubt your point has some merit. It’s also important to remember, she’s a very intelligent, well educated woman who made informed choices about her life. She could have got a proper job, built a career.

The young girls she and Epstein groomed and sexually exploited had very difficult, neglectful, abusive childhood experiences. They were vulnerable to exactly the kind of criminal activity perpetrated on them.

Perhaps being programmed from birth in your large house with servants on hand allowed her to think it was OK to programme young women to service the likes of Epstein.

I worked in publishing in Oxford and the stories about Maxwell were legendary. The whole family were monsters and now we have to bear years of appeal led by her brothers. The interesting aspect is who is being protected throughout the whole business, clearly many important people.

M0nica

Let me be absolutely clear. I am not entering any kind of defence of Ghislaine Maxwell, she has done what she has been convicted of and deserves the sentence she got, but I do think that she has been programmed for this since birth.

Her father, Robert Maxwell, was a monster and a bully, she was the youngest of his 9 children and his favourite. Having been brought up in the shadow of such a monster and been favoured, there is a certain inevitability that she would be drawn to an equally monstrous person like Epstein.

Looking at the pictures of Ghislaine Maxwell with Epstein she is almost always holding him, her arms twined round him looking at him for a response. He is rarely looking at her and is never returning her embrace, he has his arm tound her. It strikes me that she is behaving like a small girl trying to get the attention of her Daddy.

She is a grown woman, she must have known that what she was doing was wrong, but having been spoiled and favoured as a child by a monstrous ego, she was putty in the hands of a similar ego.

I agree with you.

I also noticed the same thing in the photo's with Epstein - her clinging on to him - him looking triumphant and smug.

She is also, in a way, a victim of the rich, powerful, male-ego. I almost feel sorry for her - as a woman, she will definitely come in for fierce criticism... as have the victims.

The rich / famous / powerful are not always the winners...

Bravo MOnica

Let me be absolutely clear. I am not entering any kind of defence of Ghislaine Maxwell, she has done what she has been convicted of and deserves the sentence she got, but I do think that she has been programmed for this since birth.

Her father, Robert Maxwell, was a monster and a bully, she was the youngest of his 9 children and his favourite. Having been brought up in the shadow of such a monster and been favoured, there is a certain inevitability that she would be drawn to an equally monstrous person like Epstein.

Looking at the pictures of Ghislaine Maxwell with Epstein she is almost always holding him, her arms twined round him looking at him for a response. He is rarely looking at her and is never returning her embrace, he has his arm tound her. It strikes me that she is behaving like a small girl trying to get the attention of her Daddy.

She is a grown woman, she must have known that what she was doing was wrong, but having been spoiled and favoured as a child by a monstrous ego, she was putty in the hands of a similar ego.

BREAKING: Prince Andrew has proven he is not guilty of sexual offences by attempting to get off on the technicality that his accuser is now living in Australia, rather than America, so she shouldn't be allowed to sue. This is totally the type of thing an innocent person would do.

Maxwell, allegedly, might be able to reduce her sentence, if she supplies evidence of others involved.

It remains to be seen whether she does or not, but I bet a few powerful men are sweating now….

The RF cannot act is if they are above the law.

Their marital shenanigans exist in every generation right down now to William.

I can’t think of any reason why Prince Andrew’s evidence should be kept secret.

Good. The verdict I was hoping for.

So Andrew thinks himself above the law. What a coward, abusing his royal status to hide behind.

Grany

Good Verdict

Wonder if Andrew is sweating now.

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A most satisfactory outcome in my opinion.

There will be many rich and powerful men who will now be worrying about what will come out next.

She must know a great many secrets. Names. She chose not to take the stand. After Epstein, she’s likely terrified. Well, I would be.

Mind you, conspiracy theorists think he’s not dead. Living another life of luxury. Changed appearance. False papers. Money could do that for you. Not his own of course, but that from friends in high places to keep him quiet. Anything is possible I suppose.

Wonder if Andrew is sweating now.

I wondered about that too but, according to GM's attorney, her conviction weakens any case against him.

Good Verdict

Wonder if Andrew is sweating now.

Anyway, I'm pleased with the verdict.

MayBeMaw

Calistemon

I always pronounced it Zhees-len, MayBeMaw so assumed I'd been wrong all these years.
Her mother was French I believe.

It will be interesting if Andrew D of Y's request is granted but I don't know why it should be.

Well I imagine my French colleague knew how to pronounce her own name so I can only assume Maxwell's is an Anglicised version

The way some pronounce it sounds more like French the perfume.
It is Zheeslen.

Bet there are quite a few agitated grey haired blokes out there tonight.

The name Ghislaine has two different pronunciations. The first pronunciation, which is more common in most of France and in Belgium is Ghee-lehn. The second pronunciation, which is more common in the south of France and in Canada is Jeez-lehn
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Hurray - we’re all right!

Calistemon

I always pronounced it Zhees-len, MayBeMaw so assumed I'd been wrong all these years.
Her mother was French I believe.

It will be interesting if Andrew D of Y's request is granted but I don't know why it should be.

Well I imagine my French colleague knew how to pronounce her own name so I can only assume Maxwell's is an Anglicised version

However her name is correctly pronounced, I am pleased she was found guilty.
So, Prince Andrew is still trying to cover his back.