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Ghislaine Maxwell Found Guilty

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Calistemon Wed 29-Dec-21 22:21:34

Maxwell has been found guilty on five out of six counts of recruiting underage girls to be sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein.

news.sky.com/story/ghislaine-maxwell-found-guilty-of-sex-trafficking-charges-12501445

Maxwell also faces two perjury charges, which defence lawyers successfully argued should be tried separately.

I wondered if she might get off the charges, as money and power are behind her, but justice has prevailed.

Granniesunite Fri 31-Dec-21 11:29:49

I hope this last post GSM is you defending the indefensible.If not ?…..

Calistemon Fri 31-Dec-21 11:39:39

Granniesunite

I hope this last post GSM is you defending the indefensible.If not ?…..

It rather proves my point, though, Granniesunite
That lawyers will attempt to defend the indefensible.

nanaK54 Fri 31-Dec-21 11:39:50

VioletSky

I wasn't 4, that is just when it started

flowers flowers flowers

Lucca Fri 31-Dec-21 12:12:41

Germanshepherdsmum

Anyway I have much better things to get on with now the rain's stopped so please enjoy having go in my absence.

Pleading the fifth gransnet style (better things to do…)

Anniebach Fri 31-Dec-21 12:15:45

Blondiiescot child neglect

Calistemon Fri 31-Dec-21 12:21:43

Lucca

Germanshepherdsmum

Anyway I have much better things to get on with now the rain's stopped so please enjoy having go in my absence.

Pleading the fifth gransnet style (better things to do…)

And I'll revert to the GN excuse - she started it, Miss!

Blondiescot Fri 31-Dec-21 12:24:58

Anniebach

Blondiiescot child neglect

I take it you'd be calling for the same thing for the parents of the girls in the Rotherham grooming cases too then?

JaneJudge Fri 31-Dec-21 12:54:06

Irrc one of the girls Mums in the Rotherham case was repeatedly ignored by the authorities and weren't some of the girls in care homes?

MissAdventure Fri 31-Dec-21 12:56:01

Yes, they were.

Katie59 Fri 31-Dec-21 13:00:04

JaneJudge

Irrc one of the girls Mums in the Rotherham case was repeatedly ignored by the authorities and weren't some of the girls in care homes?

Care homes are the worst place, they can’t be locked up, they stay out, police round them up and take them back, they do exactly the same next day.
That’s assuming it’s not someone in the care home that’s abusing them.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 31-Dec-21 13:29:24

No excuse, went out, came back. I haven’t attempted to defend anything, indefensible or otherwise Granniesunite and Calistemon . I asked why, in the absence of evidence of imprisonment, drugging or threats, the girls continued to act as they did. I have yet to receive a satisfactory explanation. It seems that some posters think of these girls as innocents. When I was in my teens two underage girls in my village were well known for going with anyone. Of course if they had subsequently made a complaint against one of the men the law would have considered it rape because of their age, but they knew exactly what they were doing I can assure you.

MissAdventure Fri 31-Dec-21 13:33:37

That because if they had been raped, it would have been rape, regardless of anything else.
Paedophilia, too.

Anniebach Fri 31-Dec-21 13:33:39

Yes the care homes, social services and the police failed the victims in Rotherham ,

Blondiescot Fri 31-Dec-21 13:35:51

Anniebach

Yes the care homes, social services and the police failed the victims in Rotherham ,

I was talking about the parents.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 31-Dec-21 13:36:07

If that response was to me MissA I don’t quite understand what you’re trying to say.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 31-Dec-21 13:37:26

In order to answer your question you need to understand a number of areas relating to emotional maturation, early years abuse, poverty, etc etc.

Far too complicated to go into on this forum.

But until you understand these areas, and your posts clearly show that you don’t, then I would strongly advise that you qualify your posts with the acceptance that you are not speaking from a knowledgable background.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 31-Dec-21 13:38:00

My post was to GSM

Anniebach Fri 31-Dec-21 13:38:16

As for parents, Virginia Giuffre’s father in a tv interview,
he loved her from the day she was born, she should receive compensation, I didn’t know what was happening to her when I
drove her to Epstein’s mansion.

No mention that age 13 she lived with a man for 6 months.

MissAdventure Fri 31-Dec-21 13:40:17

Yes it was to you, GS.
My point was simply that regardless of the girl's reputations or activities, a man who had sex with them should quite rightly be charged with rape, because a child is unable to consent.
Underage?
A charge for paedophilia too.

Anniebach Fri 31-Dec-21 13:41:04

Unfair Whitewave did not those with so called understanding
let down the victims in Rotherham.

Granniesunite Fri 31-Dec-21 13:43:51

GSM. …. I would be more inclined to say that the men knew exactly what they were doing ….Think it’s now called grooming..
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Germanshepherdsmum Fri 31-Dec-21 13:47:03

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MissAdventure Fri 31-Dec-21 13:50:15

Wouldn't you think the damage more likely to be caused my the dirty old men only too willing to have sex with children?
I'm astounded.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 31-Dec-21 13:52:54

I am not ignorant wwm. Kindly don’t imply that I am.
MissA given that they actively sought out sex I would be horrified if the girls I mentioned subsequently tried to have rape charges brought.

Doodledog Fri 31-Dec-21 13:54:38

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