SIR Tony Blair ?

Forsythia

It’s been blocking the system for years. Why now does it suddenly need unblocking.

A Sewer can only take so much!

Blondiescot

While I accept that there were many good things which came about as a result of his time in power - devolution being just one of them! - his actions in taking us to war with Iraq will never be forgotten nor forgiven. As an ex-Army mum, I'm forever grateful that my son came back from his tours of Iraq and Afghanistan safe and sound, but there's not a day goes by that I don't think of those families who were not so fortunate, or the servicemen and women who are still suffering as a result. And for what?

My feeling exactly Blondiescot both my boys served and at one time both where in Afgan & Irag at the same time I was terrified for them,quite a few boys never came home friends of my boys, some had stayed with us over the years all for the ego of this man I hope the uproar about this award is massive and it be rescinded .

Boz

Forsythia

Why now, after 14 years. Why?

I heard on Sky that NOT giving Blair an honour was blocking the system. Until he got something, nothing could be done for Cameron or May. Seems strange to me but reported on the news. I have wondered why Cameron didn't get a title.

Cameron ?? For setting up Brexit ? No thanks.

Thanks for the link Grany. We have both signed. I think it is bad manners to put anything political on Facebook but I have made an exception!

Devolution was a case of Blair doing the right thing for the wrong reason. His government thought it would be the end of Scottish nationalism. Then along came Cameron and his desire to silence the dissidents in his own party. The union is in danger because of the EU referendum and not because of devolution. If it is true that Tory lite Blair is being honoured to pave the way for Cameron then the Queen’s decision is causing further dissent and no good will come of that.

Anniebach

A link to names in Epstein’s black book grany and would you
type in Rotherham Abuse in the search box, you will find threads where I posted 2017,, read then apologise please. I cannot accept anything you say without links after your lie
about me, thank you.

Sorry went off topic

You will find links to Blair in little black book if you Google Blair Epstein little black book

I don't know what you are talking about annie What do you mean about me lying about you?

I have wondered why Cameron didn't get a title.

Do you mean the Cameron that set up Brexit, got what he wanted and then bolted because he didn't know where to begin with what he'd engineered? The Cameron who took on the lying, deceitful Andy Coulson as his Communications Director, knowing of his involvement in the phone hacking affair? That Cameron? When they start dishing out gongs for dishonest, lying cowards, I'm fairly sure he'll be first in the queue.

People do turn down honours at every level. It might be that Tony Blair turned down honours to begin with to burnish his 'man of the people' image, but couldn't really turn down this hnour as it was direct from the Queen and he is now part of a very select group, or maybe, as it is one out, one in. He was just standing in a queue waiting for his number to come up.

Problem with your memory grany,

Petition to have Tony Blair stripped of his knighthood gathers pace

Good

www.thenational.scot/news/19819731.petition-tony-blair-stripped-knighthood-gathers-pace/

Anniebach

Problem with your memory grany,

I've searched what you suggested and I can't find anything from myself about you on the few GN 2017 threads that I found annie you will have to explain what you mean if you care to otherwise I don't understand what you are referring to [shook] ok ?

Can you remember how Cameron met that Mum off mumsnet who had a child with a disability and promised there wouldn't be a cap on continence products and how he was a champion for children with disabilities as he understood. Then the continence products were cut further, cuts to services and education for those with special needs, cuts to the NHS. What a champion he was

Am I allowed to when it’s not related to this thread ? Can someone advise please ?

vegansrock

The one PM I’ve changed my mind about is Gordon Brown - he seems to be morally and intellectually superior to any PM we’ve had since. He’s the only one I can think of who seemed to be sincere in what he tried to do ( not all of it successful before I get piled on) . Not sure if he has or hasn’t had an honour - he should do.

As Forsythia and I pointed out, no PM succeeding Blair could be given the honour by the Queen until Blair had received one himself. So even if there had been a brilliant PM , they would not have received the honour as Blair’s lack of knighthood was blocking the system .

Desmond Tutu said Blair should face trail for war crimes

Anniebach

Am I allowed to when it’s not related to this thread ? Can someone advise please ?

I think you should put Grany out of her misery, she clearly has no idea what you mean

So what you're saying is Atqui is that regardless of whether or not the Queen thinks TB deserves a knighthood, he's been given one so a future PM would be able to receive one too.

I'm shocked at that too Smileless, it just beggars belief if it's true. The thought that Cowardly Cameron and Boris the Buffoon will automatically receive a gong, despite all they've done to wreck the country, is nauseating. Bliar's hubris at accepting the gong, infuriates me; he should have refused it, as Michael Foot did.

And Gordon the Gormless will also receive one Chewbacca. Let’s add him to your list.

I believe there is a petition on the go for Blair not to receive his knighthood. I was lost for words when he was made Middle Eastern Peace Envoy and here I am again. If he had a shred of decency he would refuse to accept it. Odious excuse for a man.

In his early years Blair did a lot of good, even waiting lists came down and it was a lot easier to get treatment. His main failing were the wars but he also did a lot of good.

Bloody Brilliant of HM and an excellent FU to the current shambolic crowd currently occupying the commons.

Barmeyoldbat

In his early years Blair did a lot of good, even waiting lists came down and it was a lot easier to get treatment. His main failing were the wars but he also did a lot of good.

Absolutely. It’s amazing how short peoples memories are when it comes to politics. Then again that’s why I’m never forgive Thatcher for the hell my family went through during her years as PM. Apart from Iraq I’d like to know examples of how people were personally adversely affected by Blair’s polices when he was PM. As for Gordon Brown I can only assume that some people haven’t been listening to his calm, statesmanlike advice throughout the pandemic. Imo a throughly decent man who sadly didn’t have the charisma that the electorate seem to crave these days.

Chewbacca Michael Foot was never offered it, he was never PM.

Annie Bach- I wish Foot had been PM , I liked and respected him. I was in my early thirties and believed he could win. His defeat helped me accept no labour leader who is seen to be, or is, too far left will never win an election
BArmyoldbat- yes the Blair brown years improved the lives of so many families in deprived areas. The country was IMO a less divided, selfish place than it appears to be now
Few people are all bad and my experience of the Blair years says he isn’t snd wasn’t all bad