SIR Tony Blair ?

There will be the same fracas if Johnson ever gets offered the same KC.

Imagine a Sir Alexander Johnson.

MayBee70

There’s so much talk about this on social media that I’m beginning to wonder if it’s a way of deflecting people away from how badly the government are doing in the polls at the moment…

Really, think that’s a conspiracy theory too far. Whatever happens to this fiasco, it will not alter anything else.

vegansrock

It’s funny how more people seem to be furious about Tony Blair getting a knighthood than care about Tory donors being given peerages and helping govern this country.

Agree. For one thing, no one could have foreseen how Iraq (and other Arab countries) would fall into a complete shambles once their dictator leaders were got rid of. Democracy seems to be rather more difficult to achieve.

Vegansrock that is an excellent point.
When Blair and New Labour came into power, it seemed like a bright new world and he did lead a government full of energy and enthusiasm.
It seems a shame that aims, for instance, the broadening of educational opportunity are now slated as idiocy. A high level of education is the hallmark of a civilised society. Blair is a highly intelligent man and I despair of the endless grudge about Iraq which is as much about the US and Bush and the days when the US still saw its role as the policemen of the world. Now that Boris and the Tories want to cuddle up to the US again, I wonder, hollowly, whether they will be slated in the same way.
The problem is the tabloid press and the right wing nature of the press in the UK. They express the views of their owners as Hannen Swaffer once eloquently said and we live in the clutches of a wealthy, self serving elite.

Whitewavemark2

There will be the same fracas if Johnson ever gets offered the same KC.

Imagine a Sir Alexander Johnson.

I doubt it.
There will be a lot of praise for getting Brexit done and the vaccine roll out and “nobody could have dealt any better with the pandemic “

Lucca

Whitewavemark2

There will be the same fracas if Johnson ever gets offered the same KC.

Imagine a Sir Alexander Johnson.

I doubt it.
There will be a lot of praise for getting Brexit done and the vaccine roll out and “nobody could have dealt any better with the pandemic “

Hmmm. I'm not sure.

These poll results may indicate a lack of approval.

Though it didn't specifically ask about the handling of the pandemic. I think the results of the forthcoming public inquiry may put paid to the idea that nobody could have dealt any better with the pandemic.

Anniebach

Why did John Major wait eight years ?

Nobody could find him. He was out having a curry!

Brilliant Sarnia!

I've been having a look at the UK's involvement with Iraq over the past few decades.

We happily sold arms to Iraq, some of which were used by Hussein to massacre thousands of his own citizens. We came in with the US in the Iraq/Iran war, which no-one seems to be bothered about. Our involvement in the Middle East doesn't look like a history to be proud of.

I was horrified by the invasion of Iraq, but also equally horrified at other UK involvement in wars, such as the Falklands. I'm not trying to excuse Blair, but he was a good PM who did a lot of positive things for the country and I think he's being singled out unfairly.

I also ask who benefits from the focus on Blair, particularly from the people who claim to support Labour but can’t see anything he contributed as positive. Yes - the tories, it’s a great distraction

What about the GFA? Think how many lives were saved as a result that.

MaizieD

I've been having a look at the UK's involvement with Iraq over the past few decades.

We happily sold arms to Iraq, some of which were used by Hussein to massacre thousands of his own citizens. We came in with the US in the Iraq/Iran war, which no-one seems to be bothered about. Our involvement in the Middle East doesn't look like a history to be proud of.

I was horrified by the invasion of Iraq, but also equally horrified at other UK involvement in wars, such as the Falklands. I'm not trying to excuse Blair, but he was a good PM who did a lot of positive things for the country and I think he's being singled out unfairly.

So you would have let the British territories fall into enemy hands, an invasion in fact by Argentina. The people living on those Islands have chosen to stay British, shall we not defend them then. As bad as it was, should we not have helped defend Europe, where do you think we should help out. Must admit we should not have touched the Middle East with a barge pole. There you go though we did, people are still suffering, unlike in the Falklands territories.

I'm not going to refight the Falklands, Lincslass. Thatcher was caught on the hop. Didn't notice what was going on until too late.

The only war I can ever find a modicum of justification for is WW2.

Defend the Falklands, defend Europe, but don't touch the Middle East with a barge pole.

Mmm hmm.

Alegrias1

Defend the Falklands, defend Europe, but don't touch the Middle East with a barge pole.

Mmm hmm.

Yes because we caused enough shit back in the day, how have we made it any better by fighting wars there. What are you implying !!!!

I think it's right to defend Brutish people against invasion, and to help our allies, but the wars in the Middle East were nothing to do with that. They were primarily about oil.

British not Brutish ???

Oh dear!

"British " territories sounds a bit Empire though ,surely by now we must understand we cant lay claim to a country or group of islands just because the eejits in power think its a good idea.The Empire is long dead

Empire? Who mentioned Empire?

paddyann54

"British " territories sounds a bit Empire though ,surely by now we must understand we cant lay claim to a country or group of islands just because the eejits in power think its a good idea.The Empire is long dead

The Falkland were uninhabited when claimed by the French, then the British, then the Spanish who then left them; they were unclaimed until British decided to reclaim them in 1833.

They never belonged to Argentina which had been a Spanish colony.

Why do politicians always think they can overwrite history with their own versions?

Keir Starmer was doing it on Good Morning Britain today (January 4), in a bid to justify nominating Tony Blair for a knighthood.
The New New Labour leader was responding to a petition calling for the knighthood to be revoked, that had received more than half a million signatures at the time.

Nearly 650,000 names have been attached and it is one of Change.org’s most popular petitions of all time.

Starmer spoke about what he saw as Blair’s achievements – but unaccountably failed to mention the biggest reason people are complaining: his decision to drag the UK into a war in Iraq that killed a million people for no reason – because it was based on a lie.

And Starmer’s whitewashing of the Northern Ireland peace process is also a crock.

Bill Clinton was the main instigator of moves that led to the Good Friday Agreement. When Blair became prime minister, he handed responsibility over to the late Mo Mowlam.

She, in turn, relied on help from people who were on good terms with the various organisations that needed to be involved.

This included one person who, it seems, was instrumental in bringing republicans to the negotiating table.

He had spent years acting as a go-between in an effort to keep people talking and the possibility of peace alive. His name was Jeremy Corbyn.

So if anybody deserves an honour for the Northern Ireland peace process, considering Ms Mowlam has passed away, it would be Jeremy Corbyn, not Tony Blair.

The irony is that Mr Corbyn wouldn’t accept it because he knows what it represents

Starmer didn't nominate Blair.

There weren't a million deaths in Iraq.

Asserting that Blair had nothing to do with the GF agreement is re-writing history.

Given those inaccuracies why should we believe anything else you have written?

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Sorry I was replying to grany’s praise of her hero

Why do you keep repeating what you know is untrue about Starmer nominating Blair Grany?