Johnson today and PMQs! ⁉️

GillT57

FannyCornforth

Maizie I do keep thinking that something about drink and / or drugs will come out at some point

There are many rumours of this on SM. Funny how the two who nursed him have flown away and cannot be interviewed. Before you accuse me lemon, this is what happens when we have a liar as PM, one starts to doubt everything he says and does. Still it could be worse, imagine being the wife who was once the mistress.

Why put my name in your post? I have no interest in ‘accusing you’ of anything.I haven’t posted anything about Johnson being in hospital with Covid.
Nor do I absolve Johnson of blame where the ‘number ten parties’ are concerned, as I believe the buck stops at the top.

GillT57

I thought Chris Bryant was very good; calm and eloquent and straight to the point. It was very noticeable that Johnson was, for the first time in a long time, looking reasonably well groomed. His shirt was clean, collar where it should be, tie straight, hair not as bad as usual. Like someone turning up in court and hoping to give a good impression

But, having listened to the evidence, still guilty and should be sent down.

Lemon, it was a (failed) lighthearted attempt to preempt you criticising my post, just trying to save you from having to post a criticism of my passing on SM rumours.

Gill ''Funny how the two who nursed him have flown away and cannot be interviewed.''

I think this is not beyond the remit of a couple of great journalists on a mission. I wonder how much they were paid to 'fly'.

I think the nurse who treated him did give an interview after she left her job but I could be wrong.

I meant helped look after him….

She did give an interview. She said she resigned over lack of respect for NHS workers….

GillT57

Lemon, it was a (failed) lighthearted attempt to preempt you criticising my post, just trying to save you from having to post a criticism of my passing on SM rumours.

Definitely failed.

Another phrase to add to the drinking game or Johnson bingo is”the People’s Priorities” - in other words, Tory priorities.

Kali2

Gill ''Funny how the two who nursed him have flown away and cannot be interviewed.''

I think this is not beyond the remit of a couple of great journalists on a mission. I wonder how much they were paid to 'fly'.

Can someone please expand on this conspiracy theory?
What do we think that they are ‘hiding’?

Good question, FannyC. I am a bit lost, too.

I think Angela Rayner would have really had him riled Shane she didn’t get to do it
It’s not as if it’s the first time just the first time he’s been outed so throughly
Total waffle he’s only sorry he was caught out he should go and so should all the rest of them that were working in the garden with a pint in their hand
I know his wife was with him last time was she this time if so it wasn’t work was it or is she privy to the workings of the government
I tell you if the whole country was on the street baying for his removal he d waffle on sailing I didn’t know…….

He’s the kid in vlasss that says ‘wasn’t me miss it was him’

Do not forget that competent as Gray is, she is not independent, and her boss is Johnson.

I think the critical issue that she must address is whether her boss mislead parliament. If he did then he goes.

But Johnson does not intend to go- he is fighting back. That pressure can take two forms.

Pressure on the met- police - which is constitutionally illegal - but whenever did that stop Johnson?

Pressure on Gray when the report is submitted to Johnson. He will see it before anyone else.

My problem is that given the road of corruption, illegality and lies this government is travelling, how can I be confident of the findings?

I find it strange that no one in the media has questioned why the Police allowed this party to go ahead. They surround the building and must have seen what was happening.

FannyCornforth

Kali2

Gill ''Funny how the two who nursed him have flown away and cannot be interviewed.''

I think this is not beyond the remit of a couple of great journalists on a mission. I wonder how much they were paid to 'fly'.

Can someone please expand on this conspiracy theory?
What do we think that they are ‘hiding’?

Goodness me. Some people see conspiracy theories everywhere. I remember Boris personally thanking these named medics. Surely that was enough? We do have to consider patient confidentiality for everyone regardless of who they are. Would you like your stays in hospital discussed with the media? I think not.

Hello Urms I hope that wasn’t directed at me, but no, I wouldn’t like my stays in hospital discussed (mind you, I’ve mentioned DH’s often enough).
I was just intrigued about what others were hinting at.
I’m still intrigued to be honest

We are thinking as one this morning, Fanny. I am also bewildered about any conspiracy, but would like to know what it might be.

Doodledog
The fact that he wasn’t on a ventilator was mentioned, I don’t know if that’s relevant, or indeed true.
I know that he was given a 50/50 chance of survival which is chilling

I'd want evidence of him having a 50/50 chance ,the man is a liar and all his mates in goverment back him up
.I dont know anyone who had a 50/50 chance who got out of intensive care as fast as he did ,there were reports he was sitting up and on his laptop .Hardly deaths door!!
Of course around the time he says he was seriously ill we had 12 deaths of friends and family and friends family ,so forgive me for being suspicious but its his MO to lie .It was just another hiding in a fridge alternative ,if things get too hot HIDE

Ah. So the conspiracy theory is that he wasn't actually ill?

I couldn't possibly know that, but Trump got well very quickly too, and I think he was given the antibody treatment that is now being offered to those who are judged likely to respond to it? I had assumed that Johnson was given the same treatment, which back then would have been in short supply (it is still not routinely given) and it might have looked bad if it had got out that he had been given special treatment when others were dying in their thousands. Pure speculation though.

I was only repeating things I had read on Twitter, remarking on his miraculous recovery, so marvellous that we now know he was able to pop out into the garden for a drink within a month or so of being gravely ill, very unlike the reports of other people's recovery from covid19 that's for sure. The problem is that he has lost credibility, that's what happens to liars; nobody believes them when they tell the truth.

Not long before Johnson was in the ICU and very ill, my DH was too( different hospital) and I can assure you that nobody in there is sitting up looking at a laptop! Have all these conspiracy theorists ever been in an ICU?
My DH was certainly well enough to pop out into the garden a month later for a drink...it’s not running a marathon after all.
He wasn’t fully recovered for quite a while but is 20 years older than Johnson in any case.

Ventilators are not used for everyone in ICU either.
I can understand people disliking Johnson but not for giving in to daft fantasies.ICU staff don’t lie about the patients in there, and you don’t get taken in there unless seriously ill.
Many never come out alive, but thankfully some do.
Three out of the six or seven in there died whilst my DH was there.I was given a booklet by the staff the minute he was taken in there which says ‘your loved one may sadly die, but rest assured we will do all we can’ ( not exact words, I was in a bit if a state and can’t be exact) but it was enough of a shock at the time.You are given all their personal possessions in a little bag too, their watch, wallet, pens, ring, etc.

I am sorry to hear off your DH's illness lemongrove, it must have been a very worrying time for you. The point I am trying to make is that due to Johnson's history of telling lies, it is understandable how conspiracy theories that he wasn't really ill with covid19 have sprung up.

What a dreadful time for you and your husband lemongrove and what a huge relief it must have been when he recovered.