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Johnson today and PMQs! ⁉️

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FannyCornforth Wed 12-Jan-22 05:21:05

Anyone else excited? ?
I bet that Angela Rayner couldn’t sleep last night!

I assume that she’ll be doing it as Starmer is self isolating (for the sixth time, no less).

Apparently, Johnson is making a statement before PMQs, which is highly unusual.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 12-Jan-22 05:27:48

I suspect that he has been forced by the 1922 to apologise.

Mind you if he does that means he took part in an illegal gathering at least once, which means that past ministers with honour and integrity have resigned. The police should then look at the matter - not that they will do anything, being in the Tory pocket.

So perhaps he won’t apologise? ?

FannyCornforth Wed 12-Jan-22 05:32:08

A poll that’s being quoted all over the radio reports that 66% of voters think that he should resign.
I can’t see him apologising, I don’t think that he is capable of it

Casdon Wed 12-Jan-22 05:38:52

Starmer has had Covid himself for the second time, but he is back for PMQs today thankfully, although I’m sure Johnson wouldn’t agree.
It’s hard to see what mitigation Johnson can offer, given that the party was organised by his own principal private secretary in the garden of his home and he and his wife were there. Maybe it was a Bobby Ewing moment.

FannyCornforth Wed 12-Jan-22 05:43:25

Thanks Casdon
I would have preferred Rayner to be honest. Didn’t Miliband do them recently too? I thought that he was good too

FannyCornforth Wed 12-Jan-22 06:02:11

Angela Rayner is on the Today program this morning

Whitewavemark2 Wed 12-Jan-22 06:13:58

Starmer is the right one to tackle Johnson.

Do you remember Starmer saying, when asking about illegal parties

“I’ll leave it there ………….for now”

He knows what he’s doing. Didn’t take long did it? He doesn’t make a song and dance about it all like Johnson’s silly and embarrassing rhetoric, but is methodical, competent and quietly deadly.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 12-Jan-22 06:16:14

My god!,

Just read that he may refer everything to the police, which means that he won’t answer questions about it at PMQs.

What an utter rat he is.

FannyCornforth Wed 12-Jan-22 06:16:26

Yes, yes I do remember that!

FannyCornforth Wed 12-Jan-22 06:17:17

Whitewavemark2

My god!,

Just read that he may refer everything to the police, which means that he won’t answer questions about it at PMQs.

What an utter rat he is.

So that’s what the statement is about. I did wonder that

Casdon Wed 12-Jan-22 06:18:10

Gosh I wouldn’t Fanny Cornforth, Starmer is excellent at PMQ, I find Rayner gets too angry and loses her questioning abilities.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 12-Jan-22 06:18:23

This is what I was talking about

Starmer: "somebody here isn't telling the truth. The House will have heard the PMs answer, & I remind him the Ministerial Code says ministers who knowingly mislead parliament will be expected to offer their resignation. I will leave it there, for now"

FannyCornforth Wed 12-Jan-22 06:22:42

Casdon

Gosh I wouldn’t Fanny Cornforth, Starmer is excellent at PMQ, I find Rayner gets too angry and loses her questioning abilities.

I actually agree with you now re Starmer.
I think that I’ve got a bit over excited by it all and my judgment has gone out the window.
I did think that he would be absent today. I’m pleased that he isn’t now

Whitewavemark2 Wed 12-Jan-22 06:26:04

Mind you I think Rayner is good. But she hasn’t got Starmer’s lethal killer instinct.

Doesn’t look as if he will need it now in any case ?

FannyCornforth Wed 12-Jan-22 06:32:07

I think that Johnson will be going soon anyway.
There must be loads more dirt on him, just waiting to be dished

vegansrock Wed 12-Jan-22 07:19:49

Nick Ferrari says he’ll probably issue a statement beforehand saying it’s all under investigation and no rules were broken etc. Then won’t have to answer questions about it. Not that he answers any questions anyway.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 12-Jan-22 07:23:55

Tbh I think that tact will only make it worse.

Johnson will be cornered eventually, and prolonging the debacle is not sensible.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 12-Jan-22 07:25:26

Apparently number 10 staff are being instructed to remove any reference to illegal parties from their phones.

Riverwalk Wed 12-Jan-22 07:26:12

The Met Police will need to investigate themselves also - they provide 24/7 security at Downing Street- they must have seen what was going on, regular gatherings in the gardens with wine, can't all have been business lunches.

Meanwhile they were watching people with drones, questioning small groups in parks, and moving people on when sitting on a bench.

Oopsadaisy1 Wed 12-Jan-22 07:30:58

I wonder what else Cummings has information on? If this doesn’t sink Boris I’m sure there will be something else along soon.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 12-Jan-22 07:31:31

They are in the Tory pocket.

This country is in such a poor state.

FannyCornforth Wed 12-Jan-22 07:34:34

Peter Brookes in The Times

FannyCornforth Wed 12-Jan-22 07:38:20

Riverwalk

The Met Police will need to investigate themselves also - they provide 24/7 security at Downing Street- they must have seen what was going on, regular gatherings in the gardens with wine, can't all have been business lunches.

Meanwhile they were watching people with drones, questioning small groups in parks, and moving people on when sitting on a bench.

I remember two young women in Derbyshire being arrested for going for a walk together while drinking take away coffee.
I can’t remember which rule they were supposed to have broken.
I think it might have been travelling too far from home.

Casdon Wed 12-Jan-22 07:38:26

The email from Johnson’s personal private secretary is already leaked, so the evidence is there, and some of the 70 who chose not to attend have confirmed it happened to the press. I don’t think he can wriggle out this time.

Lucca Wed 12-Jan-22 07:40:29

Someone will be along soon to say they’re not bothered about a party there are more important things to worry about ….

I can’t help feeling if the current government’s various weasellings and blunders formed the plot of a TV drama the critics would slam it as unrealistic