Will we have a new PM by the end of the month?

DiscoDancer1975

I don’t suppose they’re 2 metres apart when they’re working either.

Possibly not although most people tried to be socially distanced. But this was a party - a BYOB party as per the invitation by email that most of us have seen.

JenniferEccles:

'So in many respects things were going well'

- it's strange, as I missed that, didn't notice much going well at all.

All I saw was 'too little, too late (on repeat) with far too many deaths.

I do agree that the vaccinations have been successful - yet I never thought that BJ had much to do with that.

lemongrove

Am not so sure about that WW....not at all.
Unless he resigned ( unlikely) he will go on until after May elections, that will be the tipping point.If elections went well for the Conservatives then they will keep Johnson.If not...

Spot on... Nothing will happen until then.

Well, at least she had some integrity. She was got rid by the ERG. They will get rid of Johnson when they decide, and will appoint the next one. He was just a tool to get votes- now they have huge majority, he has served his purpose.

Am not so sure about that WW....not at all.
Unless he resigned ( unlikely) he will go on until after May elections, that will be the tipping point.If elections went well for the Conservatives then they will keep Johnson.If not...

He is toast and quite honestly should go immediately. Remember the spectacle of May after her vote of no confidence. She bumbled along and it was humiliating. Johnson will suffer the same.

Jennifer
Yes, exactly, good post.

Brave? Some would say reckless.

lemsip

Carrie will not allow him to resign,,,she's only just getting the 'place' shipshape!...

Oh no, more expense tearing all that wallpaper down and getting rid of the furnishings.
I'm sure no future PM and family if he or she has one will want to live in all that over-blown splendour!

Thank you Alegrias1

Nearly 400 are recorded as dying with Covid in the reports today. What is the only topic in the news? A party. Again. How long can this be allowed to continue?

JE I think that is a very fair post of yours at 17:27.

Carrie will not allow him to resign,,,she's only just getting the 'place' shipshape!...

DiscoDancer1975

I don’t suppose they’re 2 metres apart when they’re working either.

Certainly Hancock and his amour weren't.

I am so cross and frustrated with the PM over this latest revelation. Incredibly frustrated with him, as he has let himself and all of us down.

He has made a number of brave decisions in the past which, despite opposition from the usual quarters, have paid off.

In 2020 he had the courage to push ahead with orders for our vaccines, choosing to go it alone which meant ours were ordered while the lumbering bureaucracy of the EU was still quibbling about prices. That enabled us to get off to a flying start.

He was brave enough to take us out of lockdown in the summer when much of Europe was still tied down by restrictions.

Now this winter he has held his nerve and stuck to the plan to let us ride out this current wave, again despite howls of protests that the NHS would be overwhelmed. So far that hasn’t happened.

So in many respects things were going well, until these latest revelations.

How could he not see how it would look when news of these gatherings leaked out, which they inevitably would?

A massive error of judgement which could allow Labour to get in power without having to do anything at all.

They wouldn’t have caught anything in the garden, and spread it that same day. Most likely not the next day either.

Well, I wish I'd known it was ok, that I could have broken the rules, sat in the garden, asked relatives and friends to come and BYOB because I had a special birthday that day and didn't see anyone apart from DH (thank goodness for him).

That does sound petty when people were in hospital without the comfort of a loved one with them and doctors and nurses were in despair as they tried to comfort patients as they lay dying.

That's the week my wedding should have taken place - us and eight guests. But it couldn't happen and although we were disappointed, it was what we had to do - we had a nice meal and did facetime with our children etc. Then this comes out!! BJ is corrupt to the core but on past form I'm sure he'll wriggle out of the problem again ??. BTW for those of you who don't know we ran away to Gretna Green last May ??

I don’t suppose they’re 2 metres apart when they’re working either.

I sincerely hope so, Sago and I hope that wipes the smirk off his face.

Yes Dinahmo, in the overall scheme of things, it was the wrong thing to do, but I still think it would pale into insignificance, had we had a different leader, who isn’t wanted by his own party.

His ‘ mistakes ‘ are too obvious, putting the rest of them, ( Labour included ), to shame. Most of them would be so good at hiding it.

Alegrias1

There's a whole thread going on about not correcting people's spelling or grammar.

But I can't believe anybody is making rational arguments when they think that covid can be asymptotic.

Yes...I trusted spell check. Looking at it quickly, it looked right. I’m not as perfect as I thought I was!

DiscoDancer If 100 people had turned up at the party and followed the rules on social distancing - 2m plus circulating area of 28.8 square metres then the combined gardens of numbers 10 and 11 Downing Street would not be large enough to accommodate them and follow the rules.

As it happens not that many turned up but who goes to a party and stands 2 metres apart from everyone else all the time?It's not just the parties, it's the cronyism and the excessive payments to friends starting up companies to do track and trace and other things that didn't work. It runs into billions.

Imagine what the entire world is thinking with Johnson and Windsor?

DiscoDancer1975 A good point you make about the risk being less outside. We agree that what they did was wrong.

To me it is a big deal that the people who made the rules broke them and that when asked about it the PM has lied.

The doctor on the Utube video is a different matter. I don't see how it detracts from this issue.

Although it probably justifies a different thread, I agree with you DiscoDancer that medical staff who refuse vaccination are a real worry.
Back to BJ now.