Will we have a new PM by the end of the month?

Just a thought but aren’t there too many threads in exactly the same issue ?

Blossoming

HolySox
We all did

I didn’t.

Certainly not with so many people !

Kali2

So called European Research Group. Nothing to do with 'research' though, but extreme free market policies and ideologies. Extreme 'right' in a different way.

Kali2

Thank you. I’ll do a bit more research now. Never heard the term before.

HolySox
We all did

I didn’t.

lemongrove

Kali2

And they totally refuse, again and again, to give a list of members. They should be forced to do so. Whose remit would that be though, The Speaker? Or?

Why should they be ‘forced to’ ? You seem very keen on draconian measures all round Kali
Nobody is forced to say that they are a member of a political party/ the Masons/the unions/ boy scouts and so on in this country.

we are paying for the ERGs existence. Of course we should know who are members etc.

Time wasting trivia ?
What about imposing draconian measures on everyone else, then doing exactly what you want. People were fined for much smaller breaches

Thank you HolySox.
Your posting is the most sensible one I have read this morning.
We have more important things to deal with rather than waste time on trivia.

I don’t think he will resign. He may get booted out though later in the year if his popularity in the polls doesn’t improve.

Sarnia says "Britain deserves so much better." Do we?
Yes there was a lockdown and most people followed the rules ... but many didn't. Many "bending the rules" to suit themselves. But it was for our own protection.
So the staff sat in the garden in the sun - as we all did. As I recall the email instructed people to socially distance which they no doubt did. Maybe the email was just authorising all staff to use the garden at a time open public places in London were limited. Matter of interpretation but BJ's enemies obviously making mileage. I think the conservatives needed BJ in charge to get re-elected because of Brexit but now that's done want him out.
I think this too long ago and far too petty. Parliment has bigger things to debate such as tackling the current COVID wave, energy prices/ crisis, leveling up North snd South...

I think he’ll hang on until spring conference in Blackpool, 18/19 March then whatever happens there and in the meantime will determine his future.

lemongrove

Kali2

And they totally refuse, again and again, to give a list of members. They should be forced to do so. Whose remit would that be though, The Speaker? Or?

Why should they be ‘forced to’ ? You seem very keen on draconian measures all round Kali
Nobody is forced to say that they are a member of a political party/ the Masons/the unions/ boy scouts and so on in this country.

If they are elected by the public, represent the public and their Constituencies, use public money for their activities, and exert massive power over Government and even the PM and the future of the Country, they should be declared. Same for the Judiciary.

Boy Scouts, they are not!

I doubt it tbh, I think he will get away with it, as usual. Then of course, what would the alternative be, I dread to think!

Mmmmm, I just don’t know. I think probably not gone by the end of the month, but will he last the rest of the year. Probably not!

Kali2

And they totally refuse, again and again, to give a list of members. They should be forced to do so. Whose remit would that be though, The Speaker? Or?

Why should they be ‘forced to’ ? You seem very keen on draconian measures all round Kali
Nobody is forced to say that they are a member of a political party/ the Masons/the unions/ boy scouts and so on in this country.

About ERG. Ask the average person what it is and what role it plays. Many will have absolutely no idea. And many don't care. But perhaps I am being unfair here.

BTW, they are the ones that made sure they got rid of Mrs May- that used Johnson as a tool to win power, and the ones that will stab him in the back now- and appoint the next one.

Wikipaedia has names for Chairman, deputy Chairman and deputy Chairwoman of the ERG Kali2 but it cannot be taken as truth. Shrouded in mystery it seems although said to be so powerful.

GagaJo:

'They can't all be lying, selfish t**ts can they?'

Maybe they can!

So called European Research Group. Nothing to do with 'research' though, but extreme free market policies and ideologies. Extreme 'right' in a different way.

And they totally refuse, again and again, to give a list of members. They should be forced to do so. Whose remit would that be though, The Speaker? Or?

ERG? Would someone expand for me please?

MaizieD

Whitewavemark2

Anyone not tainted as well as not associated by the ERG. A minority of MPs have held far too much power over the majority.

But no tory leader could get any legislation through without the support of the ERG. That was shown in December. They are the parliamentary majority. Without them the government falls..

And THAT is seriously worrying and beyond ...

so many people, Tories or not, seem to totally fail to grasp the power of the ERG, and their aims.

I just live in hope that we'll see the back of him - and good riddance!

DH is apoplectic at Boris's lack of judgement and managerial skills - "He's the Prime Minister, for God's sake. What if a nuclear war broke out?"
I'm more preoccupied with wondering what all the highly paid advisors and no. 10 staff were doing to allow this situation to arise. Smirking up their sleeves maybe?

Whitewavemark2

Anyone not tainted as well as not associated by the ERG. A minority of MPs have held far too much power over the majority.

But no tory leader could get any legislation through without the support of the ERG. That was shown in December. They are the parliamentary majority. Without them the government falls..