Will the Nation accept an apology? Will you?

So, who on earth is Sue Gray

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Don’t be daft, it’s fine ! I’m sure Maddy won’t mind either!

^And it’s Fanny, not Maddy btw*

Oh goodness, I'm getting worse at this.

I sincerely apologise to you and to maddy, fanny

Maizie my comment at 15.04 was to yours at 14.59

Although I admit that it’s wrong to associate Jeremy with Piers, I still think that he was something of an unknown quantity- he wasn’t exactly clear about B**
(And I speak as one who voted for him)

I know Maizie. I don’t disagree.

I did acknowledge that it was wrong. But people do do it.

My father (honestly, the loveliest man in the world) has a brother who is most definitely a baddun.

And it’s Fanny, not Maddy btw

Germanshepherdsmum

In your dreams spabby.

Your nightmares, maybe, Gsm, but they have no logic to them. Especially when you consider the PM himself and the shower of second rate incompetents he has chosen for his cabinet.

There is no earthly reason why a Corbyn government couldn't have done better.

No. He’s not sorry it happened, just that they’ve been caught out. He’s misled Parliament and that’s a resignation offence - even if it wasn’t, I think eventually there will be no way out for him. He claims he didn’t know there were parties going on, and was under the impression that the ones he attended were ‘staff meetings.’ As PM he should have ensured that he and his staff were adhering to the rules which applied to everyone else at the time. He didn’t, and ignorance is no excuse.

According to the news this morning there’s more evidence to come to light, and I don’t think it will take more than one more revelation to make his position impossible. He needs to jump before he’s pushed.

I know that it’s wrong to speculate on his views based on those of his brother, but…

It's definitely wrong. maddyone. I have siblings whose views I completely disagree with. Assigning guilt by association is a very questionable thing to do...

I cannot stand Johnson spabby,
but it’s totally impossible to say how another government would have dealt with the pandemic, especially one under Corbyn.
I know that it’s wrong to speculate on his views based on those of his brother, but…

In your dreams spabby.

I was soooo wrong about this government.
I thought they couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery ?
I agree about lack of independence. Basically marking their own homework.

Corbyn/Labour would have been a much better leader, he's have led with care & compassion for ordinary people and there would have been no billion pound contracts for their mates. we'd have had a better death rate, policies made with care, such a real protective ring round care homes with people allowed in only if they test negative thus saving lives of existing occupants etc. Now Boris has his senior civil servant employee writing a report which will be returned to - Boris, how impartial is that?

FannyCornforth

‘Are you sure there are no women here?’

Casdon

As about 80% of posters have said they wouldn’t accept an apology, I’m assuming sazzl must be referring to those who say they would? I wouldn’t call them rude and nasty though, misguided is strong enough I think.

Can't see why you would assume that. The rude nasty posters can just as easily be those who wouldn't accept an apology. I think people can draw their own conclusions by reading the thread.

As about 80% of posters have said they wouldn’t accept an apology, I’m assuming sazzl must be referring to those who say they would? I wouldn’t call them rude and nasty though, misguided is strong enough I think.

‘Are you sure there are no women here?’

Who you talking to sazz1?

I've been doing Wordle so my powers of detection are all used up.

Typical gransnet discussion with several rude nasty people venting their anger as their view isn't as popular as they would like. No need really. Just state what you think and why without attacking other posters. Vent your anger elsewhere

Dinahmo

Secretsquirrel1

I agree! I think we have a lot to thank BJ for actually.
Imagine if Corbin had of been in charge! And I don’t think KS Wouid have been much better. I can’t imagine Labour having got us though the pandemic. They’d have been hopeless!

Please explain your reasons. It really isn't enough just to make that statement without reasons for doing so.

Exactly. What evidence could you have for that assertion? “They’d have been hopeless” Why ?

NOT acceptable, a PM lying to the nation.

Secretsquirrel1

I agree! I think we have a lot to thank BJ for actually.
Imagine if Corbin had of been in charge! And I don’t think KS Wouid have been much better. I can’t imagine Labour having got us though the pandemic. They’d have been hopeless!

Please explain your reasons. It really isn't enough just to make that statement without reasons for doing so.

I feel fine to judge, based on my own behaviour.

MayBee70

He’s only apologising because he’s been caught out. He is the most morally vacant PM this country has ever had. I wonder what other things he has lied about….

Absolutely he's apologising because he's been caught out

LuckyFour

I think everyone should seriously have a look at their own behaviour during the last two years. I don't condone the party it was very stupid, but most people have broken the rules in some way or another . They say - 'we just met our friends in the park' or 'they came to our house but only for half an hour', or 'we simply had to go on holiday as we were desperate for some sun', etc. etc.
Let he who is without sin etc..... (I'm not religious by the way), but we must honestly look at ourselves before we judge too harshly.

No, I haven't broken any Covid rules - not one. I don't claim to be without sin, so I will judge as harshly as I see fit.

His misbehaviour though upsetting is the least of his crimes. Boris is responsible for Brexit, the biggest con sold to a gullible public, that is self infliced and has damaged our economy and future trade prospects.

Covid has been handled dreadfully until the vaccine roll out. The highest death rate per capita in Europe (except for Belgium). The PPE fiasco and returning infectious people to care homes.

Not only should Boris go he should also be held to account under for law for gross mishandling of the country.