Part of me wants him to cling on……

So you don't vote Conservative except when you vote Conservative?

Blondiescot

"I don't vote Conservative...but I do". That's got to rank on a par with "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"...

If you're referring to me giving Boris credit for something (despite his many failings) firstly I never voted Conservative in my whole life until Labour made such a pig's ear of running the country. After that I started voting Conservative in desperation to keep them out. That does not make me a follower or supporter of Boris. I know he's a walking disaster area and someone else would be better. I don't admire Boris, I just give credit where I think it's due and that could apply to anyone. Even Corbyn has his good points ?

"I don't vote Conservative...but I do". That's got to rank on a par with "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"...

I'm trying to think of some Scylla and Charybdis joke but I'm failing so far. Give me time.

Alegrias1

^I do give him credit for holding on to the ship's mast and not falling overboard.^

While the rest of us were left to slide off the deck with no help from him whatsoever.

He took too long to sort out a lifebelt contract for his mates/donors.

*gibberish

I do give him credit for holding on to the ship's mast and not falling overboard.

While the rest of us were left to slide off the deck with no help from him whatsoever.

Eh? How can you claim he hasn't fallen apart? Most of his replies in the HoC are jibberish.

Urmstongran

The seismic shock that reverberated around the UK upon the result of the referendum was so deep it is still a source of exquisite pain to many. Sadly, they do need to accept it though and move on, albeit with bitterness.

Absolutely, and it was followed by another seismic shock which was covid. Boris has had to navigate us through both, the most turbulent period since WW2. I am not a follower of Boris but I do give him credit for holding on to the ship's mast and not falling overboard. Although maybe he has now! I've seen him face some of the most hostile attacks in the Commons ever witnessed and not fall apart in front of our very eyes. So I do admire him for his ability to stand firm in the face of enemy attack.

DiscoDancer1975

To be clear, I don’t vote Conservative. Only this once to get us out of Europe.

Now I must leave as babysitting beckons....

So you do vote Conservative then?

Excuse 157b coming into play again...

DiscoDancer1975

To be clear, I don’t vote Conservative. Only this once to get us out of Europe.

Now I must leave as babysitting beckons....

Who's babysitting you?

HolySox

growstuff - last time we voted the conservatives in meant Brexit was actioned. Status Quo certainly not conserved.

I was talking generally.

Many of the people who voted Conservative in the last election weren't natural Conservative voters.

growstuff - last time we voted the conservatives in meant Brexit was actioned. Status Quo certainly not conserved.

To be clear, I don’t vote Conservative. Only this once to get us out of Europe.

Now I must leave as babysitting beckons....

Pardon, how?

growstuff

DiscoDancer1975

Is that what you meant growstuff

No, you're ignoring the current situation.

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growstuff

DiscoDancer1975

growstuff

In what way(s) were they worse?

Well....now there’s peace in NI isn’t there. When I was a child...so when we went into the EU, early seventies?.....I remember how bad it all was.

Have you ever heard of the Good Friday Agreement?

Yes...agreed, but still no proof this is because we were in the EU. Could have happened anyway.

DiscoDancer1975

Is that what you meant growstuff

No, you're ignoring the current situation.

DiscoDancer1975

Urmstongran

The seismic shock that reverberated around the UK upon the result of the referendum was so deep it is still a source of exquisite pain to many. Sadly, they do need to accept it though and move on, albeit with bitterness.

I think people are basically scared of change, and how it will affect them. Understandable.

That's why they vote Conservative. They want to conserve the status quo. They know any attempt to rebalance would affect them.

DiscoDancer1975

growstuff

In what way(s) were they worse?

Well....now there’s peace in NI isn’t there. When I was a child...so when we went into the EU, early seventies?.....I remember how bad it all was.

Have you ever heard of the Good Friday Agreement?

Urmstongran

I could pick holes in that list poshpaws but can’t find the energy. The tattoo one was funny though!

Well, that is the point. We did have a couple of 'sort of' lists of benefits of Brexit at some point, a long time ago. Didn't make any sense then, and certainly do not make any sense now, with what we know now. Which is why we do ask again, and perhaps annoyingly, again- for a list that stands up to the realities of Brexit.

But perhaps both sides can play at the 'can't be asked' (yes that's how I say it) game here.

Urmstongran

The seismic shock that reverberated around the UK upon the result of the referendum was so deep it is still a source of exquisite pain to many. Sadly, they do need to accept it though and move on, albeit with bitterness.

I think people are basically scared of change, and how it will affect them. Understandable.

The seismic shock that reverberated around the UK upon the result of the referendum was so deep it is still a source of exquisite pain to many. Sadly, they do need to accept it though and move on, albeit with bitterness.

Is that what you meant growstuff

growstuff

In what way(s) were they worse?

Well....now there’s peace in NI isn’t there. When I was a child...so when we went into the EU, early seventies?.....I remember how bad it all was.