Has our country ever been in such a state?

A shortened version of the youtube video Kali2 posted is on this thread:

twitter.com/mikegalsworthy/status/1486793170902032391

Massive queues at Dover? A disaster for drivers, hauliers, business, imports-exports- and the customer.

youtu.be/bEO0-BlMvpE

Tory Lord resign because of covid fraud.

GrannyGravy13

The BBC has a photo on its website of lorry queues into Dover allegedly yesterday, unfortunately it’s obvious it is not recent as the trees are in their autumnal beauty as opposed to January bareness.

Just have a look at Ciaran's twitter feed, GG13. He's videoing what he sees and he's not faking it. Link at top of this page...

BBC don't research their photos well. Remember them posting the photo of Johnson laying a wreath at the Cenotaph, from the wrong year...

The BBC has a photo on its website of lorry queues into Dover allegedly yesterday, unfortunately it’s obvious it is not recent as the trees are in their autumnal beauty as opposed to January bareness.

MayBee70

It was last Thursday 9.30 Radio 4.

Thanks. I'll have a listen.

Lincslass

Whitewavemark2

Islamaphobia in the Tory party.

Something we always knew/suspected now apparently being confirmed by a Tory MP.

Really think this Whip would say this, considering she has the premise of being right on her side, and he would know this. So why say it? Defaming and being very divisive, perhaps she was just not the right person for the role. Let’s wait and see rather than chucking racist aspersion over every Tory MP.

He came forward voluntarily didn’t he - said he didn’t want other whips to be under suspicion when it was him with whom she had had the conversation. Don’t know what to make of it really. Didn’t she have something to do with HS2 ?

So, the $64,000 question. Who do we like for the next general election ? I was going to ask who we like for the next PM, but I think that’ll come sooner than the election !!

Whitewavemark2

Sue Gray has found the e-mail sent to Johnson by a senior civil servant to Johnson warning him not to go ahead with the party.

Peston reporting.

He must’ve know it was sent to him so why lie about it ? The evidence of the parties - right down to the suitcase used to buy in booze - were systematically uncovered, so did it not dawn on him that the email would eventually surface too ?

21.30….

It was last Thursday 9.30 Radio 4.

MaizieD

MayBee70

There’s a really interesting episode of In Our Time about the gold standard,that explains everything you need to know about currency. I’d love to say I understood it but I didn’t but some of you might! I’ll give it another go. I now realise why I gave up doing economics A level. My brain just doesn’t work in that way.

Have you got a link to that, Maybee? Or what date it was broadcast?

It’s the most recent one. I know you often explain financial stuff so I thought you’d find it interesting. You can explain it to me! I will listen to it again. I love In Our Time.

MaizieD

Oh and , Lucca, Johnson's friend subsequently spent some time as an involuntary guest of Her Majesty on being convicted of fraud IIRR. Another product of our wonderful Public School system...

Oh don’t get me wrong I am the opposite of a Boris fan….

My memory is failing, old age ?

Whitewavemark2

Oh that was me? Got my wires crossed

Naughty step for you, WwMk2

Oh and , Lucca, Johnson's friend subsequently spent some time as an involuntary guest of Her Majesty on being convicted of fraud IIRR. Another product of our wonderful Public School system...

Oh that was me? Got my wires crossed

Lucca

I don’t! I’ll investigate

Google it. Easy to find.

Lucca

“Johnson will do anything to save his own skin, and can be dangerous when cornered, to the extent that we know that he tries to get people who cross him beaten up”

That’s quite an accusation?

I agree he’s not just a buffoon he is not a nice guy but….

I think whoever posted that was confused. He was helping a friend to get a journalist beaten up. It was the friend who was cross with the journalist.

Quite honestly, I think that Johnson is quite vile enough without making up ( or innocently passing on) false stories about him.

Just read a Tory mp suggested that it is time that Johnson left by announcing that he wants to spend more time with his families ????

I don’t! I’ll investigate

Don’t you remember the reporter episode?

'A couple of black eyes': Johnson and the plot to attack a reporter.

“Johnson will do anything to save his own skin, and can be dangerous when cornered, to the extent that we know that he tries to get people who cross him beaten up”

That’s quite an accusation?

I agree he’s not just a buffoon he is not a nice guy but….

I do not envy Tory MPs who want Johnson gone.

Johnson will do anything to save his own skin, and can be dangerous when cornered, to the extent that we know that he tries to get people who cross him beaten up.

At the moment he is throwing out headline policies regardless of their potential outcome, in order to avoid accountability. Look at just last week - we had Patel sending in the RN - what happened to that? We had Dorries attacking the BBC, that was clearly politically motivated. We had Ghana telling Patel to bugger off when she quite arbitrarily decided that she would send asylum seekers to be “held” there is some sort of concentration camps. And finally We had Shapps announcing that he was going to cut down on excessive train announcements ?

Johnson is also involved in what is almost certainly criminal conduct in relation to blackmail.

Just a week in the Johnson government.

I’m waiting for Starmer to promise PR elections if Labour get in. I wrote to him about it ages ago, but no response so far. Do you think Labour would go for it?